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<blockquote data-quote="Winterthorn" data-source="post: 3471960" data-attributes="member: 1702"><p><strong>I am still very angry. But I'll be civil.</strong></p><p></p><p>Many good questions from others here on the details, but I must repeat one in my own words that a few others have mentioned and remains on my mind:</p><p></p><p>How will WotC repair relations with D&D/d20 hobbists considering our righteous anger stirred up by such a grossly mis-managed announcement? Anyone with real marketing savy would agree this was badly handled. I am absolutely flabbergasted that such a bomb was dropped and nothing of <em>substance</em> was <em>immediatedly</em> presented to mute the utterly predictable explosion. (Vague marketing claims of future cool stuff is definitely not "substance" - it is just plain hot air compared what was done to us.) How come a detailed "compensating" presentation of what was to replace the loss of our gaming icons was not <em>immediately ready</em>? A smooth finish to a new beginning would have at least stilled the anger if not the skepticism. <em>If</em> I continue to be a customer of WotC it will always be tainted by this atrocious "gaff".</p><p></p><p>BTW: I am not fooled by tales of nostagia composed to mollify customers. (I've been to the WotC site to see how things have been spun.) I can see right through that ploy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /></p><p></p><p>This leads me to ask: What "Digital Initiative" could possibly exist of equal or better value than Dragon or Dungeon magazines that would also be equally or more easily accessible to hobbists interested in the material? If the DI is online only - credit card required - many young/budget limited hobbists will be shut out! (If it ain't broke, why fix it? Eh?)</p><p></p><p>Also: Was any consideration made with respect to how the absence of Dragon and Dungeon would affect FLGS customer draw and retention? Those mags attracted regulars and new hobbists. (I imagine there are plenty FLFS owner's who are upset.) Less people drawn into the stores means a lower sales hit to everything.</p><p></p><p>Final question: what on earth was WotC thinking turning to online publication considering the fantastic success of big chain bookstores selling hard copy periodicals, novels, etc.? (Clearly hard copy is what the masses want!)</p><p></p><p>I have reached a point in my life where I am considering packing up the books and the hobby forever in the coming fall. This development seems to be a signal to me to do so. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> I wonder if I am alone feeling this way...</p><p></p><p>PS: I am not opposed to online material in principle that supports a hobby, there is plenty good material "out there" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But I consider digital information of secondary value to hard copy. <em>Nothing beats holding the literature in your hands.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winterthorn, post: 3471960, member: 1702"] [b]I am still very angry. But I'll be civil.[/b] Many good questions from others here on the details, but I must repeat one in my own words that a few others have mentioned and remains on my mind: How will WotC repair relations with D&D/d20 hobbists considering our righteous anger stirred up by such a grossly mis-managed announcement? Anyone with real marketing savy would agree this was badly handled. I am absolutely flabbergasted that such a bomb was dropped and nothing of [i]substance[/i] was [i]immediatedly[/i] presented to mute the utterly predictable explosion. (Vague marketing claims of future cool stuff is definitely not "substance" - it is just plain hot air compared what was done to us.) How come a detailed "compensating" presentation of what was to replace the loss of our gaming icons was not [i]immediately ready[/i]? A smooth finish to a new beginning would have at least stilled the anger if not the skepticism. [i]If[/i] I continue to be a customer of WotC it will always be tainted by this atrocious "gaff". BTW: I am not fooled by tales of nostagia composed to mollify customers. (I've been to the WotC site to see how things have been spun.) I can see right through that ploy. :mad: This leads me to ask: What "Digital Initiative" could possibly exist of equal or better value than Dragon or Dungeon magazines that would also be equally or more easily accessible to hobbists interested in the material? If the DI is online only - credit card required - many young/budget limited hobbists will be shut out! (If it ain't broke, why fix it? Eh?) Also: Was any consideration made with respect to how the absence of Dragon and Dungeon would affect FLGS customer draw and retention? Those mags attracted regulars and new hobbists. (I imagine there are plenty FLFS owner's who are upset.) Less people drawn into the stores means a lower sales hit to everything. Final question: what on earth was WotC thinking turning to online publication considering the fantastic success of big chain bookstores selling hard copy periodicals, novels, etc.? (Clearly hard copy is what the masses want!) I have reached a point in my life where I am considering packing up the books and the hobby forever in the coming fall. This development seems to be a signal to me to do so. :( I wonder if I am alone feeling this way... PS: I am not opposed to online material in principle that supports a hobby, there is plenty good material "out there" :) But I consider digital information of secondary value to hard copy. [i]Nothing beats holding the literature in your hands.[/i] [/QUOTE]
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