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<blockquote data-quote="Randolpho" data-source="post: 135046" data-attributes="member: 3016"><p>This is a valid, but IMO wrong, point. There are plenty of wizards who are *not* wizards of High Sorcery in Dragonlance. Thorn Knights are an example. Rogue wizards are another. Various other spell-casters that should be classes in 3e but were monsters in 1e are another (I distinctly remember a Witch in Dragons of Light (DL7)). </p><p></p><p>Rogue wizards are the big thing here. It's quite possible to advance in levels as a rogue wizard all you want, but you don't gain the benefits of high sorcery. High Sorcery is, essentially, a contract between the god of magic the PC wishes to worship (Solinari, Lunitari, Nuitari) and that PC. Rogue wizards do not enter into this contract. It's true that on the main continent rogue wizards are very rare, but this is more because of the *dominance* of the High Sorcerers than anything else -- socio-political aspect, in a way. On other continents, "rogue" wizards are far more common. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As a prestige class, it would be possible to gain more than 3 levels of wizard without becoming a High Sorcerer. This is the way it *should* be, IMO. As for advancing to high levels, if you make the High Sorcerer levels stack with Wizard levels for spellcasting abilities, one could advance to the highest wizard levels without problems. You make the prestige class an overlay class, somewhat like a template. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How are the Thorn Knights mechanically different from either normal wizards or HS wizards? That was certainly never addressed in the books, and Thorn Knights never made it to D&D...</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>A) What other prestige classes are there? </p><p></p><p>B) that's the whole point of multi-classing. You gain diversity (differeng skill-sets) at the expense of specialization/focus. You're saying you want the DL wizards to have all the benefits of High Sorcery (making them more powerful than renegade mages or even standard D&D mages), without any drawbacks. Sounds a tad munchkinish to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it has *more* flavor IMO, *without* the necessity of changing core rules as a prestige class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Randolpho, post: 135046, member: 3016"] This is a valid, but IMO wrong, point. There are plenty of wizards who are *not* wizards of High Sorcery in Dragonlance. Thorn Knights are an example. Rogue wizards are another. Various other spell-casters that should be classes in 3e but were monsters in 1e are another (I distinctly remember a Witch in Dragons of Light (DL7)). Rogue wizards are the big thing here. It's quite possible to advance in levels as a rogue wizard all you want, but you don't gain the benefits of high sorcery. High Sorcery is, essentially, a contract between the god of magic the PC wishes to worship (Solinari, Lunitari, Nuitari) and that PC. Rogue wizards do not enter into this contract. It's true that on the main continent rogue wizards are very rare, but this is more because of the *dominance* of the High Sorcerers than anything else -- socio-political aspect, in a way. On other continents, "rogue" wizards are far more common. As a prestige class, it would be possible to gain more than 3 levels of wizard without becoming a High Sorcerer. This is the way it *should* be, IMO. As for advancing to high levels, if you make the High Sorcerer levels stack with Wizard levels for spellcasting abilities, one could advance to the highest wizard levels without problems. You make the prestige class an overlay class, somewhat like a template. How are the Thorn Knights mechanically different from either normal wizards or HS wizards? That was certainly never addressed in the books, and Thorn Knights never made it to D&D... A) What other prestige classes are there? B) that's the whole point of multi-classing. You gain diversity (differeng skill-sets) at the expense of specialization/focus. You're saying you want the DL wizards to have all the benefits of High Sorcery (making them more powerful than renegade mages or even standard D&D mages), without any drawbacks. Sounds a tad munchkinish to me. :) But it has *more* flavor IMO, *without* the necessity of changing core rules as a prestige class. [/QUOTE]
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