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<blockquote data-quote="Filby" data-source="post: 1868270" data-attributes="member: 7497">Wow... I love how much thought you've put into this. I've tried to do more or less the same.For the purposes of my setting, Homo heidelbergensis developed into H. sapiens sapiens and H. neandertalensis, just like yours, but Homo orcus (my less-than-original Latin name for orcs) is a third branch of heidelbergensis, not a descendent of the neanderthals (incidentially, neanderthals survived my world's ice age, and are just as civilized as sapiens). Ogres -- Homo monstrum, a Latin name I took from the OD&amp;D Orcs of Thar boxed set -- are a fourth offshoot.As for the other demihumans, genus Homo (and I consider orcs and ogres to be demihumans)... dwarves (Homo robustus) are an offshoot of neanderthals, gnomes (no Latin name as of yet) are an offshoot of dwarves magically modified by Garl, and hobbits (2E halflings -- Homo sapiens vallensis) and hin (3E halflings -- also no Latin name yet) are offshoots of sapiens. Elves are fey in origin, so they don't quite fit into the same schema. Goblinoids are, like demihumans, descended from Australopithecus, but have a different genus; goblins are Gobelinus vulgaris, hobgoblins are Gobelinus fortis, and bugbears are Gobelinus ursis.Ugh, I'm sorry to have gone so far off-topic... to answer the question, I voted more than one, since I like both the 2E and 3E depictions of orcs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Filby, post: 1868270, member: 7497"] Wow... I love how much thought you've put into this. I've tried to do more or less the same. For the purposes of my setting, [i]Homo heidelbergensis[/i] developed into [i]H. sapiens sapiens[/i] and [i]H. neandertalensis[/i], just like yours, but [i]Homo orcus[/i] (my less-than-original Latin name for orcs) is a third branch of [i]heidelbergensis[/i], not a descendent of the neanderthals (incidentially, neanderthals survived my world's ice age, and are just as civilized as [i]sapiens[/i]). Ogres -- [i]Homo monstrum[/i], a Latin name I took from the OD&D [i]Orcs of Thar[/i] boxed set -- are a fourth offshoot. As for the other demihumans, genus [i]Homo[/i] (and I consider orcs and ogres to be demihumans)... dwarves ([i]Homo robustus[/i]) are an offshoot of neanderthals, gnomes (no Latin name as of yet) are an offshoot of dwarves magically modified by Garl, and hobbits (2E halflings -- [i]Homo sapiens vallensis[/i]) and hin (3E halflings -- also no Latin name yet) are offshoots of [i]sapiens[/i]. Elves are fey in origin, so they don't quite fit into the same schema. Goblinoids are, like demihumans, descended from [i]Australopithecus[/i], but have a different genus; goblins are [i]Gobelinus vulgaris[/i], hobgoblins are [i]Gobelinus fortis[/i], and bugbears are [i]Gobelinus ursis[/i]. Ugh, I'm sorry to have gone so far off-topic... to answer the question, I voted more than one, since I like both the 2E and 3E depictions of orcs. [/QUOTE]

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