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<blockquote data-quote="Gnarl45" data-source="post: 6561733" data-attributes="member: 6787695">In my opinion, the real offender is Expertise. It redefines what being best at skill means and it creates expectations. The rogue would be just as roguish with proficiency in a couple more skills instead of Expertise (or with a second background).I think backgrounds are great though. It allows you to combine a skill-based concept and any other character concept. The only sad thing is that any rogue character that becomes expert in your background skill makes you feel like usless crap.The problem with across pillar balance is that you can't objectively say what is balanced. I'm sure if you search hard enough, you'll find people that think the AD&amp;D thief is perfectly balanced... I'm sure you would find some players that feel a fighter that combines both the fighter and thief goodies would be balance. It's more of a feel right thing than an exact science.I think you're right that tradition would weight very heavily in what most people think &quot;feels right&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gnarl45, post: 6561733, member: 6787695"] In my opinion, the real offender is Expertise. It redefines what being best at skill means and it creates expectations. The rogue would be just as roguish with proficiency in a couple more skills instead of Expertise (or with a second background). I think backgrounds are great though. It allows you to combine a skill-based concept and any other character concept. The only sad thing is that any rogue character that becomes expert in your background skill makes you feel like usless crap. The problem with across pillar balance is that you can't objectively say what is balanced. I'm sure if you search hard enough, you'll find people that think the AD&D thief is perfectly balanced... I'm sure you would find some players that feel a fighter that combines both the fighter and thief goodies would be balance. It's more of a feel right thing than an exact science. I think you're right that tradition would weight very heavily in what most people think "feels right". [/QUOTE]

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