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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rogueattorney" data-source="post: 2443263" data-attributes="member: 17551">In 1995 I said, out loud to myself that, "TSR will never get another dime of my money!"  (And they never did, by the way.)Here's the sequence of events...1.  1983 and later, starting with Ravenloft, peaking with Dragonlance, and continuing throught the rest of their existance as a company, TSR completely changed their philosophy on adventure design from site-based and plotless to event-based attempts at novels.2.  1984-1988, They weighed down what had been a relatively compact rule-set (1e) with a number of ill-conceived, poorly play-tested rules expansions, while at the same time doing the exact same thing to their rules lite, introductory version of the game (BECM D&D).3.  1989, The admittedly needed new edition of AD&D changed what didn't need to be changed, didn't change what did need to be changed, and otherwise sucked out all the charm from 1e, leaving us with something too generic and yet with too many world assumptions, too rules-heavy yet not customizable enough.  The DMG was useless and the Monstrous Compendiums were a joke.  The adventures and other supporting products were of such uneven quality, that buying any of it was a gamble.  After only two years of its existance as a published setting, they decided to blow-up the Forgotten Realms to fit the rules changes.4.  1991-1994, After putting out a great series of high quality supplements for D&D, and the awesome Rules Cyclopedia (seriously, the run of D&D product from c. 1987 to c. 1991 from Bruce Heard, Aaron Allston, etc. made the AD&D stuff of the time period look 3rd rate), TSR inexplicably hamstrings the whole game line by splitting it into two seperate lines, Beginner and Challenger, with two seperate campaign settings.  Predictably, D&D was no longer supported as of 1994, which was like MacDonalds no longer selling quarter-pounders.5.  1994-1995, With my interest in any TSR products waning to an all-time low, they release the exorable 2e Mystara line, reprinting in big shiny boxes, the exact information that I'd already obtained seven years ago, except in a rules format I didn't care for, not advancing plot lines in any significant way, or really giving me any reason to ever open the box again after giving it a first read over.Two years later TSR was on the verge of bankruptcy and sold to WotC.  I think I'm a pretty typical representative of the "I gave up on TSR during 2e and didn't come back to D&D until they were no longer involved" crowd.  While others' itemized list of grievances will be different than mine, the general feeling of being jerked around should be the same.  They were simply trying to stuff too much bad product down the throats of too few customers.R.A.</blockquote>

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