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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 8605967" data-attributes="member: 50987">This.I think the trouble is with the way that the rules describe Strength.&nbsp; If we wanted Strength to model the real-world, and I'm not saying that we do, the amounts given for lifting and carrying capacity would need to change.&nbsp; At the very least.[Spoiler=More math and absurdity]If Hafthor has the highest strength humanly possible (20), and it's safe to say he probably does, then the rules for lifting should be revised to &quot;You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity, or 55 times your Strength score.&quot;That's all fine and good for the upper limit, but it doesn't really work for average.&nbsp; Since the average human can lift between 135 and 175 pounds (let's take the average of 155), everyone who isn't a highly-trained weightlifter would have Strength scores of 2 or 3.&nbsp; For Strength 10 to be the average, the rules for lifting should be &quot;15.5 times your Strength score.&quot;So obviously the function isn't linear.&nbsp; If we were to collect the data from hundreds of athletes and graph their lifting limits, it would probably resemble an exponential curve, something like &quot;The amount your character can lift is equal to (long, convoluted polynomial).&quot;&nbsp; And nobody wants that.&nbsp; At all.[/Spoiler]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 8605967, member: 50987"] This. I think the trouble is with the way that the rules describe Strength. [I]If we wanted Strength to model the real-world[B],[/B][/I] and [U]I'm not saying that we do[/U], the amounts given for lifting and carrying capacity would need to change. At the very least. [Spoiler=More math and absurdity]If Hafthor has the highest strength humanly possible (20), and it's safe to say he probably does, then the rules for lifting should be revised to "You can push, drag, or lift a weight in pounds up to twice your carrying capacity, or 55 times your Strength score." That's all fine and good for the upper limit, but it doesn't really work for average. Since the average human can lift between 135 and 175 pounds (let's take the average of 155), everyone who isn't a highly-trained weightlifter would have Strength scores of 2 or 3. For Strength 10 to be the average, the rules for lifting should be "15.5 times your Strength score." So obviously the function isn't linear. If we were to collect the data from hundreds of athletes and graph their lifting limits, it would probably resemble an exponential curve, something like "The amount your character can lift is equal to (long, convoluted polynomial)." And [B]nobody[/B] wants that. At all.[/Spoiler] [/QUOTE]

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