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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9677066" data-attributes="member: 4937">Yes.&nbsp; That's what I am saying.&nbsp; I'm saying that a game that is only successful for a brief time, isn't successful.&nbsp; I'm saying that &quot;God of War&quot; is obviously a different kind of success than &quot;Tales of the Abyss&quot;.&nbsp; I think you agree with this we're just quibbling over the time frame.&nbsp; I think there exists a period of success so brief for which you would consider the game a failure.&nbsp; If it sales a bunch of copies in a month, but then fades out of the public consciousness, we'd not really call that game a success.&nbsp; I suppose someone could say, &quot;Any game that turns a profit&quot; is a success, but it's harder for me to get a sense of that.&nbsp; You don't quit your day job for a game that turns a profit.&nbsp; You don't found a company for a game that turns a profit.&nbsp; The intention is to keep that profit going for a significant period.I've said, &quot;Success consists of hanging around, being a franchise, sustaining the company the publishes it.&quot;&nbsp; The period I've chosen is a fairly long period in one perspective, but compared to the 40+ years I've been gaming not so long of a perspective.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9677066, member: 4937"] Yes. That's what I am saying. I'm saying that a game that is only successful for a brief time, isn't successful. I'm saying that "God of War" is obviously a different kind of success than "Tales of the Abyss". I think you agree with this we're just quibbling over the time frame. I think there exists a period of success so brief for which you would consider the game a failure. If it sales a bunch of copies in a month, but then fades out of the public consciousness, we'd not really call that game a success. I suppose someone could say, "Any game that turns a profit" is a success, but it's harder for me to get a sense of that. You don't quit your day job for a game that turns a profit. You don't found a company for a game that turns a profit. The intention is to keep that profit going for a significant period. I've said, "Success consists of hanging around, being a franchise, sustaining the company the publishes it." The period I've chosen is a fairly long period in one perspective, but compared to the 40+ years I've been gaming not so long of a perspective. [/QUOTE]

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