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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9677121" data-attributes="member: 177">I didn't see a consensus, and maybe that's the valuable thing to get out of the discussion.It suggests another question - why should I, who has no skin in the game, care if a game &quot;succeeds&quot;?&nbsp; I can see why, say, Morrus cares if a game or product meets his business goals, and is thereby a success, to him.&nbsp; But, what is my reason, as a player/consumer, for wanting to put that label on a game?&nbsp; What value or utility do I get from categorizing games as successful or unsuccessful?I am not sure I get much.&nbsp; I don't care if it is &quot;successful&quot;.&nbsp; I care about more specific things - like whether it still in print/available, if it popular enough that finding players will be easy, and if there a lot of content I want supporting the core rules, and so on.&nbsp; Even if I label a game &quot;successful&quot; I will still have to answer those practical questions separately.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9677121, member: 177"] I didn't see a consensus, and maybe that's the valuable thing to get out of the discussion. It suggests another question - why should I, who has no skin in the game, care if a game "succeeds"? I can see why, say, Morrus cares if a game or product meets his business goals, and is thereby a success, to him. But, what is my reason, as a player/consumer, for wanting to put that label on a game? What value or utility do I get from categorizing games as successful or unsuccessful? I am not sure I get much. I don't care if it is "successful". I care about more specific things - like whether it still in print/available, if it popular enough that finding players will be easy, and if there a lot of content I want supporting the core rules, and so on. Even if I label a game "successful" I will still have to answer those practical questions separately. [/QUOTE]

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