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<blockquote data-quote="shoak1" data-source="post: 7160179" data-attributes="member: 54380"><p>After reading your cherry-picked snippets from "my side," I decided to do a little cherry-picking of snippets from "your side.":</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And the MOST egregious of all insults (wry smile)</p><p></p><p></p><p>These quotes don't even touch on the most frustrating part of "your sides" arguments - overall you guys present your positions in a didactic and arrogant manner, turgid with assumptions based on your play style that serve to insult (albeit in an inadvertent though thoughtless way on your part) those whose play style differs.</p><p></p><p>Continuously partitioning off D and D off from its (as I see it) historic hybrid genre and placing it solely in RPG land, asserting its the DM's job to be the game balancing mechanism, decrying non-sandbox play as reducing player agency - are all perfectly valid positions. But feel free to couch them in words like "as I see it" or such every once in a while.</p><p></p><p>A previous poster (Tony Vargas?) said there might be some "reflexive defensiveness" of the current edition in play here - I would go further and say I see a pervasive, overwhelming, reflexive, didactic, and arrogant defensiveness in these forums, rooted in an inabilty to truly understand, appreciate, and be inclusive of other playstyles - that serves to act as a silencing mechanism. One which serves to wrathcet up the rancor level. Then when the mutual rancor begins to flow in full, "you guys" (deliberate use of quotes here to emphasize the division herein) then bust out with the "gee, why are you guys being so belligerent?" card.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shoak1, post: 7160179, member: 54380"] After reading your cherry-picked snippets from "my side," I decided to do a little cherry-picking of snippets from "your side.": And the MOST egregious of all insults (wry smile) These quotes don't even touch on the most frustrating part of "your sides" arguments - overall you guys present your positions in a didactic and arrogant manner, turgid with assumptions based on your play style that serve to insult (albeit in an inadvertent though thoughtless way on your part) those whose play style differs. Continuously partitioning off D and D off from its (as I see it) historic hybrid genre and placing it solely in RPG land, asserting its the DM's job to be the game balancing mechanism, decrying non-sandbox play as reducing player agency - are all perfectly valid positions. But feel free to couch them in words like "as I see it" or such every once in a while. A previous poster (Tony Vargas?) said there might be some "reflexive defensiveness" of the current edition in play here - I would go further and say I see a pervasive, overwhelming, reflexive, didactic, and arrogant defensiveness in these forums, rooted in an inabilty to truly understand, appreciate, and be inclusive of other playstyles - that serves to act as a silencing mechanism. One which serves to wrathcet up the rancor level. Then when the mutual rancor begins to flow in full, "you guys" (deliberate use of quotes here to emphasize the division herein) then bust out with the "gee, why are you guys being so belligerent?" card. [/QUOTE]
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