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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7597318" data-attributes="member: 22779">Hrm... there's a giant hole in the ground in front of me that my keen senses let me see, maybe I won't jump in it?Or, put another way, there's a series of pressure plates that I can see because they are sticking out a little more than the others, along with spikes in the wall and various other things.&nbsp; So, I Indiana Jones through the corridor and miss all the traps.&nbsp; I mean, to me, that scene in the Raiders of the Lost Ark, where stepping on a pressure plate launches a dart is a perfect example of player makes a skill check to notice the trap, and then avoids it entirely.&nbsp; Doesn't take a bunch of declarations or checks or anything else.&nbsp; Heck, he knew the trap was there just by looking.On the way back, he just runs fast enough to avoid getting darted.&nbsp; So, what exactly was his &quot;approach&quot; that required more than either a skill check (automatic success) or a Dex saving throw?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7597318, member: 22779"] Hrm... there's a giant hole in the ground in front of me that my keen senses let me see, maybe I won't jump in it? Or, put another way, there's a series of pressure plates that I can see because they are sticking out a little more than the others, along with spikes in the wall and various other things. So, I Indiana Jones through the corridor and miss all the traps. I mean, to me, that scene in the Raiders of the Lost Ark, where stepping on a pressure plate launches a dart is a perfect example of player makes a skill check to notice the trap, and then avoids it entirely. Doesn't take a bunch of declarations or checks or anything else. Heck, he knew the trap was there just by looking. On the way back, he just runs fast enough to avoid getting darted. So, what exactly was his "approach" that required more than either a skill check (automatic success) or a Dex saving throw? [/QUOTE]

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