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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 7598327" data-attributes="member: 762">I mean when a player consistently uses knowledge his character really shouldn't have.And there are rules. The DM can expressly call for ability/skill checks. If for example a player consistently points out weaknesses of monsters his character really shouldn't know, or uses knowledge of history (as an example) the character couldn't possibly know, the DM can curb that.But if the DM allows the player to play however they want on mental stats, the DM is favoring players who design characters a certain way.Using out our character knowledge to aid play is in no way subjective, it's metagaming.I never said the DM should tell the player what to think - but to discourage using out of character knowledge in playing the game.The problem is self correcting if the DM calls for checks to essentially keep the player honest. But, while it's a long, long thread, I get the impression those checks don't see a lot of play at certain tables, certainly not in the examples provided.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mort, post: 7598327, member: 762"] I mean when a player consistently uses knowledge his character really shouldn't have. And there are rules. The DM can expressly call for ability/skill checks. If for example a player consistently points out weaknesses of monsters his character really shouldn't know, or uses knowledge of history (as an example) the character couldn't possibly know, the DM can curb that. But if the DM allows the player to play however they want on mental stats, the DM is favoring players who design characters a certain way. Using out our character knowledge to aid play is in no way subjective, it's metagaming. I never said the DM should tell the player what to think - but to discourage using out of character knowledge in playing the game. The problem is self correcting if the DM calls for checks to essentially keep the player honest. But, while it's a long, long thread, I get the impression those checks don't see a lot of play at certain tables, certainly not in the examples provided. [/QUOTE]

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