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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7598480" data-attributes="member: 4937">Agreed.No, it's a simulation or toy.&nbsp; I haven't seen a lot of these lately, but some of the old 'Sim' video games were correctly defined by Will Wright as not games but as electronic toys.In a wargame or boardgame, the player still has control of the pieces in some manner, so your assertion is not true.&nbsp;&nbsp; The mind of &quot;the general&quot; is not simulated, but provided by the player, so a wargame or boardgame is not pure simulation.&nbsp; Your choices are not controlled by some algorithmic process and you do more than observe how the game plays out.&nbsp;&nbsp; Imagine the difference between the experience of playing a wargame, and observing a wargame where all the participants are AI.&nbsp;&nbsp; The later is what happens when your game stands on the simulation aesthetic alone.To create a wargame or boardgame from a role-playing game, you remove the narrative and simulation pillars.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7598480, member: 4937"] Agreed. No, it's a simulation or toy. I haven't seen a lot of these lately, but some of the old 'Sim' video games were correctly defined by Will Wright as not games but as electronic toys. In a wargame or boardgame, the player still has control of the pieces in some manner, so your assertion is not true. The mind of "the general" is not simulated, but provided by the player, so a wargame or boardgame is not pure simulation. Your choices are not controlled by some algorithmic process and you do more than observe how the game plays out. Imagine the difference between the experience of playing a wargame, and observing a wargame where all the participants are AI. The later is what happens when your game stands on the simulation aesthetic alone. To create a wargame or boardgame from a role-playing game, you remove the narrative and simulation pillars. [/QUOTE]

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