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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7599083" data-attributes="member: 6919838">&quot;Anyway, on to examples. Yes, you cover a lot of the bases with the categories of &quot;bribery&quot; and &quot;blackmail/threats&quot;:- Offer gold. Maybe a lot of gold.- Offer something else you know the NPC really wants (information, captives, magic items, perform a task, etc.)- Threaten to expose 'dirt' on the NPC- Threaten to kill the NPCs family members. (Does the DM ask for an Intimidation check? Kill a hostage instead. Another Intimidation check? Kill another hostage. Etc.)- Instead of offering a trade, just do something to get in the NPC's good favor, and then ask. &quot;Here, I rescued your daughter. No, no, no...no payment necessary. Although, now that you mention it...&quot;&quot;I recall the movie Ransom, where at the end the kidnapper asks why Mel Gibdon wouldn't pay up. Mel said in essence that he would have paid ten times that no problem, but the way the guy came off, the tone etc, led Mel to not believe him. He did not think that even if he complied the guy would honor his deal. So, one dollar or ten million - no difference.When I look at the above list and add in &quot;how convincing is the PC&quot; and think &quot;are any of these so automatic that an NPC would ignore his doubts even if he thought the other guy wasnt good for his word/promise&quot; I come away with &quot;nope, not certain. &quot;The last one, that describes a PC working with a friendly target, and the rules already provide good setup for that in the sections on social outcomes. If it's no risk, no problem. If its moderate risk, it's like DC 10, etc... and advantage plays a huge role. There's no roll even needed then, unless its risky. &nbsp;Ut the rules provide different DCs gor different cases, so i doubt Hussar would be, as portrayed) a signing the same DC for a guard who idps friendly as a guard you dont know - anymore than the rules do. I dont think that's an accurate representation of his position.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7599083, member: 6919838"] [I]"Anyway, on to examples. Yes, you cover a lot of the bases with the categories of "bribery" and "blackmail/threats": - Offer gold. Maybe a lot of gold. - Offer something else you know the NPC really wants (information, captives, magic items, perform a task, etc.) - Threaten to expose 'dirt' on the NPC - Threaten to kill the NPCs family members. (Does the DM ask for an Intimidation check? Kill a hostage instead. Another Intimidation check? Kill another hostage. Etc.) - Instead of offering a trade, just do something to get in the NPC's good favor, and then ask. "Here, I rescued your daughter. No, no, no...no payment necessary. Although, now that you mention it..."" I recall the movie Ransom, where at the end the kidnapper asks why Mel Gibdon wouldn't pay up. Mel said in essence that he would have paid ten times that no problem, but the way the guy came off, the tone etc, led Mel to not believe him. He did not think that even if he complied the guy would honor his deal. So, one dollar or ten million - no difference. When I look at the above list and add in "how convincing is the PC" and think "are any of these so automatic that an NPC would ignore his doubts even if he thought the other guy wasnt good for his word/promise" I come away with "nope, not certain. " The last one, that describes a PC working with a friendly target, and the rules already provide good setup for that in the sections on social outcomes. If it's no risk, no problem. If its moderate risk, it's like DC 10, etc... and advantage plays a huge role. There's no roll even needed then, unless its risky. Ut the rules provide different DCs gor different cases, so i doubt Hussar would be, as portrayed) a signing the same DC for a guard who idps friendly as a guard you dont know - anymore than the rules do. I dont think that's an accurate representation of his position.[/i] [/QUOTE]

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