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<blockquote data-quote="Immortal Sun" data-source="post: 7599768">You're missing the forest by focusing on the tree.I disagree strongly.&nbsp; If the DM doesn't have some interest in certain outcomes over others they are lazy and careless and have no business being behind the screen.&nbsp; &quot;Any outcome&quot; is not and never will be as valuable as a &quot;good outcome&quot;.&nbsp; Part of the DMs job is not just to ensure there is an outcome, but that the outcome is good and enjoyable for everyone.Which, again is why I used Gandalf as an example.&nbsp; There are very few things that Gandalf actually does through the story.&nbsp; He exposits a little information.&nbsp; He defeats an encounter that clearly wasn't intended to be fought by the party.&nbsp; He exposits a little more information.&nbsp; He provides some street cred when the bumbling moro..I mean party needs to get in somewhere.He really doesn't do much.&nbsp; Heck, in the &quot;big encounter&quot; that IS supposed to be fought by a party member (namely: the Witch King), he loses, only for the Witch King to be defeated by a party-level character.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Immortal Sun, post: 7599768"] You're missing the forest by focusing on the tree. I disagree strongly. If the DM doesn't have some interest in certain outcomes over others they are lazy and careless and have no business being behind the screen. "Any outcome" is not and never will be as valuable as a "good outcome". Part of the DMs job is not just to ensure there is an outcome, but that the outcome is good and enjoyable for everyone. Which, [I]again[/I] is why I used Gandalf as an example. There are very few things that Gandalf actually [I]does[/I] through the story. He exposits a little information. He defeats an encounter that clearly wasn't intended to be fought by the party. He exposits a little more information. He provides some street cred when the bumbling moro..I mean party needs to get in somewhere. He really doesn't [I]do[/I] much. Heck, in the "big encounter" that IS supposed to be fought by a party member (namely: the Witch King), he [I]loses[/I], only for the Witch King to be defeated by a party-level character. [/QUOTE]

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