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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7601102" data-attributes="member: 97077">Challenge has to do with the decisions the player makes though. While a character may be facing a fictional challenge, it is the player who is being tasked with making decisions that impact the outcome of the challenge. Thus, it is always the player who is being challenged in any meaningful fashion. The character's abilities are secondary, used only to resolve the outcome as appropriate to the rules of the game.Even in the simple climbing challenge, the player has to decide what the character is doing to overcome it - climb it with or without a climber's kit or a rope and grappling hook, with or without drinking a potion of climbing, or by casting a guidance spell first, etc. That the player may then roll a die if the DM asks for one to determine an outcome does not mean that the character is making decisions on its own. If a player is making no decisions to impact the outcome, then there is no challenge.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7601102, member: 97077"] Challenge has to do with the decisions the player makes though. While a character may be facing a [I]fictional [/I]challenge, it is the player who is being tasked with making decisions that impact the outcome of the challenge. Thus, it is always the player who is being challenged in any meaningful fashion. The character's abilities are secondary, used only to resolve the outcome as appropriate to the rules of the game. Even in the simple climbing challenge, the player has to decide what the character is doing to overcome it - climb it with or without a climber's kit or a rope and grappling hook, with or without drinking a potion of climbing, or by casting a [I]guidance[/I] spell first, etc. That the player may then roll a die if the DM asks for one to determine an outcome does not mean that the character is making decisions on its own. If a player is making no decisions to impact the outcome, then there is no challenge. [/QUOTE]

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