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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7611867" data-attributes="member: 4937">Although D&amp;D doesn't have an explicitly defined proposition filter, I imagine that in practice any PC proposition that is nonsense will be rejected.So, &quot;I set my phaser on 'kill and shoot the Klingon!&quot;, probably receives the error response, &quot;You have no phaser, and there is no Klingon in the environment.&quot;And, &quot;I catch butterflies!&quot;, probably receives the error response, &quot;There are no butterflies in the immediate vicinity, so you should probably specify a bunch of other steps before you try to catch any.&nbsp; For example, where are you planning to go to catch them, and how do you plan to get there?&quot;Propositions like, &quot;I invite everyone in the grand ballroom to play an RPG that doesn't suck!&quot;, while not errors, in that a player could start inviting everyone, probably require clarification, &quot;By invite, what do you mean?&nbsp; Are you going to go to each person individually or are you planning to shout out your invitation?&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once the clarification is made however, the player's statement is probably going to be seen as some sort of nonsense by everyone in the grand ballroom, who are likely to have no idea what an RPG is and may not understand the idiomatic phrase &quot;suck&quot; either.&nbsp; At best, their going to treat this as some weird joke which they don't get.&nbsp; At worst, the PC is likely to be treated as drunk or insane.Whereas, &quot;I apologize for my friend's aberrant behavior, and explain that their still recovering from a Mindflayer's psionic blast.&quot;, might possibly be actually good RPing at a grand ball in a typical D&amp;D setting where a PC is going on about &quot;RPG's that don't suck!&quot;&nbsp; I'm struggling to understand the point you are trying to make with these examples.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7611867, member: 4937"] Although D&D doesn't have an explicitly defined proposition filter, I imagine that in practice any PC proposition that is nonsense will be rejected. So, "I set my phaser on 'kill and shoot the Klingon!", probably receives the error response, "You have no phaser, and there is no Klingon in the environment." And, "I catch butterflies!", probably receives the error response, "There are no butterflies in the immediate vicinity, so you should probably specify a bunch of other steps before you try to catch any. For example, where are you planning to go to catch them, and how do you plan to get there?" Propositions like, "I invite everyone in the grand ballroom to play an RPG that doesn't suck!", while not errors, in that a player could start inviting everyone, probably require clarification, "By invite, what do you mean? Are you going to go to each person individually or are you planning to shout out your invitation?" Once the clarification is made however, the player's statement is probably going to be seen as some sort of nonsense by everyone in the grand ballroom, who are likely to have no idea what an RPG is and may not understand the idiomatic phrase "suck" either. At best, their going to treat this as some weird joke which they don't get. At worst, the PC is likely to be treated as drunk or insane. Whereas, "I apologize for my friend's aberrant behavior, and explain that their still recovering from a Mindflayer's psionic blast.", might possibly be actually good RPing at a grand ball in a typical D&D setting where a PC is going on about "RPG's that don't suck!" I'm struggling to understand the point you are trying to make with these examples. [/QUOTE]

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