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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7611882" data-attributes="member: 97077">Notably, in D&amp;D 5e, &quot;passive&quot; in &quot;passive check&quot; doesn't actually refer to the character being &quot;inactive.&quot; It just refers to there being no dice. Unfortunately, it's commonly interpreted as meaning the character isn't doing anything in particular but I don't think one can get there from a reading of the D&amp;D 5e rules. One can get there by reading the D&amp;D 4e rules which refers to both &quot;actively using a skill&quot; and &quot;passive&quot; checks and suggests that the DM might use a passive check to determine how much a character knows about a monster at the start of an encounter.The DM doesn't need the permission of the mechanics to establish the necessary (or optional) context though which is what gating is, effectively.Which is not to say one shouldn't do this or that it's bad. But there's a b-plot in this thread about taking assumptions from other games and mixing them up in this game and I'm taking this as an opportunity to point what could be another example of this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7611882, member: 97077"] Notably, in D&D 5e, "passive" in "passive check" doesn't actually refer to the character being "inactive." It just refers to there being no dice. Unfortunately, it's commonly interpreted as meaning the character isn't doing anything in particular but I don't think one can get there from a reading of the D&D 5e rules. One [I]can[/I] get there by reading the [I]D&D 4e[/I] rules which refers to both "actively using a skill" and "passive" checks and suggests that the DM might use a passive check to determine how much a character knows about a monster at the start of an encounter. The DM doesn't need the permission of the mechanics to establish the necessary (or optional) context though which is what gating is, effectively. Which is not to say one shouldn't do this or that it's bad. But there's a b-plot in this thread about taking assumptions from other games and mixing them up in this game and I'm taking this as an opportunity to point what could be another example of this. [/QUOTE]

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