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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8478569" data-attributes="member: 22779">What are you seeing?&nbsp; I'm looking at the page and don't see dwarves mentioned anywhere.&nbsp; The fifth paragraph talks about druids making items applicable to their profession, but, again, not really applicable to how dwarves or elves make items.&nbsp; And, note, other than, &quot;items of the highest quality&quot;, there's no actual money mentioned.&nbsp; Nor, again, what the applicable spells actually are.&nbsp; What spells make an elven cloak?&nbsp; A girdle of dwarfkind?Ok, racial level limits.&nbsp; I know.&nbsp; Which means no PC clerics, so a PC dwarf can never craft magic items.&nbsp; And, again, how do they enchant a magic ring when clerics don't have any of the requisite spells?&nbsp; And yup, page 84 is Enchant an Item, which Dwarves can never cast.&nbsp; Never minding that Enchant an Item specifically requires permanancy, which neither elves nor dwarves can ever cast.&nbsp; So, again, how do they make the items?This is the listing for potions.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />So, yeah, I'm going to keep right on saying that the rules here are pretty much nonexistent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8478569, member: 22779"] What are you seeing? I'm looking at the page and don't see dwarves mentioned anywhere. The fifth paragraph talks about druids making items applicable to their profession, but, again, not really applicable to how dwarves or elves make items. And, note, other than, "items of the highest quality", there's no actual money mentioned. Nor, again, what the applicable spells actually are. What spells make an elven cloak? A girdle of dwarfkind? Ok, racial level limits. I know. Which means no PC clerics, so a PC dwarf can never craft magic items. And, again, how do they enchant a magic ring when clerics don't have any of the requisite spells? And yup, page 84 is Enchant an Item, which Dwarves can never cast. Never minding that Enchant an Item specifically requires permanancy, which neither elves nor dwarves can ever cast. So, again, how do they make the items? This is the listing for potions. :erm: So, yeah, I'm going to keep right on saying that the rules here are pretty much nonexistent. [/QUOTE]

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