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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 7301616">I disagree strongly for the reasons I explained in the rest of my post.Mercenaries and murderhobos may share many things in common, but where they differentiate is that a muderhobo, like a muderer kills things on whimsy.&nbsp; They need not be paid and there needs to be no real goal to their killing either.&nbsp; They kill because they have weapons and like to use them.&nbsp; Mercanaries are at the very least, business-people.&nbsp; Mudering, thieving, violent business people but as much as a mercanary likes killing, they also like money.&nbsp; A murderhobo has no love for anything except killing.I'm not going to get into how it worked &quot;back in the day&quot; since we're talking about how it works in D&amp;D.&nbsp; I've plenty of mercenary players who are just fine to game with, they have motives and desires and a love for killing, but a love that can be directed.&nbsp; Such cannot be done with murderhobos.To quote you: I don't see the difference.If killing is killing then motivation matters not.&nbsp; Honor, justice, money, revenge, boredom.&nbsp; Your own argument feels internally inconsistent.&nbsp; Either motivation matters, or it doesn't.&nbsp; I think motivation matters.&nbsp; I think what makes a &quot;murderhobo&quot; a &quot;muderhobo&quot; is the fact that they lack motivation, of any kind, other than killing.&nbsp; Even a lust for loot and XP can be directed away from murderhoboing by simply making things you don't want players to kill worth no XP and have no loot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 7301616"] I disagree strongly for the reasons I explained in the rest of my post. Mercenaries and murderhobos may share many things in common, but where they differentiate is that a muderhobo, like a muder[B]er[/B] kills things on whimsy. They need not be paid and there needs to be no real goal to their killing either. They kill because they have weapons and like to use them. Mercanaries are at the very least, business-people. Mudering, thieving, violent business people but as much as a mercanary likes killing, they also like money. A murderhobo has no love for anything except killing. I'm not going to get into how it worked "back in the day" since we're talking about how it works in D&D. I've plenty of mercenary players who are just fine to game with, they have motives and desires and a love for killing, but a love that can be directed. Such cannot be done with murderhobos. To quote you: I don't see the difference. If killing is killing then motivation matters not. Honor, justice, money, revenge, boredom. Your own argument feels internally inconsistent. Either motivation matters, or it doesn't. I think motivation matters. I think what makes a "murderhobo" a "muderhobo" is the fact that they [I]lack[/I] motivation, of any kind, other than killing. Even a lust for loot and XP can be directed away from murderhoboing by simply making things you don't want players to kill worth no XP and have no loot. [/QUOTE]

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