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<blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 9035095" data-attributes="member: 891">Watch the YouTuber 'd4' - He's been transitioning from 5E slowly over to making more and more videos for PF2E.He's still only using the core book, but he's also &quot;busted&quot; the game with some builds.Consider a Dwarven Fighter that Takes Barbarian and uses a Maul. You can use all those fighter abilities, while using rage to pump them even higher, and spam knockdowns and crits. And because it's done with Free Archetype - you still have just as many feats left over for your Fighter stuff as the core rules intended.This combo makes a fighter even more obscene.You can repeat this with a lot of class combos. Combine two classes and things can get out of hand. It's not a problem if you do not allow free archetype to be used for multi-class - but this then means no one can do multi-class in a free archetype game until around level 6 or so (when they've managed to get the dedication + 2 more feats of that dedication, possible by level 6 if you use your normal class feats to do it. MIGHT be possible by level 4 but I haven't found that combo yet).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kichwas, post: 9035095, member: 891"] Watch the YouTuber 'd4' - He's been transitioning from 5E slowly over to making more and more videos for PF2E. He's still only using the core book, but he's also "busted" the game with some builds. Consider a Dwarven Fighter that Takes Barbarian and uses a Maul. You can use all those fighter abilities, while using rage to pump them even higher, and spam knockdowns and crits. And because it's done with Free Archetype - you still have just as many feats left over for your Fighter stuff as the core rules intended. This combo makes a fighter even more obscene. You can repeat this with a lot of class combos. Combine two classes and things can get out of hand. It's not a problem if you do not allow free archetype to be used for multi-class - but this then means no one can do multi-class in a free archetype game until around level 6 or so (when they've managed to get the dedication + 2 more feats of that dedication, possible by level 6 if you use your normal class feats to do it. MIGHT be possible by level 4 but I haven't found that combo yet). [/QUOTE]

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