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<blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3383706" data-attributes="member: 43358">I like the idea but it would not make me choose fighter over some other class.In a build that absolutely must have certain feats and wants them quickly, the place where the fighter basically shines, I still have a lot of trouble justifying even a single level of fighter. Generally it means a level with no skills and no advancement in 2 out of the 3 saves and no other benefits relative to most other martial classes all for a single fear that must be on a limited list.If there is any way around taking that level of fighter I will, and that is during one of the fighters better levels as it is a level that actually gives something. I have no idea how to justify taking level 3 of fighter, unless the character absolutely and desperately needs weapon specialization and cannot get something equivalent some other way.So what does the fighter need off of your list? Likely a little of each of the first four.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Slaved, post: 3383706, member: 43358"] I like the idea but it would not make me choose fighter over some other class. In a build that absolutely must have certain feats and wants them quickly, the place where the fighter basically shines, I still have a lot of trouble justifying even a single level of fighter. Generally it means a level with no skills and no advancement in 2 out of the 3 saves and no other benefits relative to most other martial classes all for a single fear that must be on a limited list. If there is any way around taking that level of fighter I will, and that is during one of the fighters better levels as it is a level that actually gives something. I have no idea how to justify taking level 3 of fighter, unless the character absolutely and desperately needs weapon specialization and cannot get something equivalent some other way. So what does the fighter need off of your list? Likely a little of each of the first four. [/QUOTE]

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