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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9179828" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>I was just reminded this was a plus thread, and, yeah, that is the take it's building on. </p><p></p><p></p><p>It's certainly true, if off-topic, that the status quo in most versions of D&D simply leaves non-casters with a numeric level they can't live up to, because casters surpass them, and that not having them at all, or not assigning them levels they can't live up to, would be solutions.</p><p></p><p>But there's nothing about the nature of the non-magical vs the supernatural that demands that. Supernatural powers have no guidelines in reality, so they can arbitrarily be made as weak/restricted as needed to balance them to whatever baseline you establish.</p><p></p><p>"Mundanity" is still a poor word choice for not-magical or not-supernatural. </p><p></p><p>But, the aesthetic for it fairly simple, it's taking normal, everyday things - people can jump, a stronger person can jump further - and taking them to the extreme required by the fantasy (be it the level in D&D, or the outlandishness of a tall tale). A really strong person can leap over a castle wall - or across the grand canyon, or whatever. That it's impossible IRL doesn't make it unnatural, supernatural, or magical.</p><p></p><p>Conversely, the magical or supernatural are all about doing things that are or at least appear, impossible, but, impossible needn't mean powerful. Hatching a hummingbird out of a chicken egg is quite impossible, but it's not going to win you any battles or anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9179828, member: 996"] I was just reminded this was a plus thread, and, yeah, that is the take it's building on. It's certainly true, if off-topic, that the status quo in most versions of D&D simply leaves non-casters with a numeric level they can't live up to, because casters surpass them, and that not having them at all, or not assigning them levels they can't live up to, would be solutions. But there's nothing about the nature of the non-magical vs the supernatural that demands that. Supernatural powers have no guidelines in reality, so they can arbitrarily be made as weak/restricted as needed to balance them to whatever baseline you establish. "Mundanity" is still a poor word choice for not-magical or not-supernatural. But, the aesthetic for it fairly simple, it's taking normal, everyday things - people can jump, a stronger person can jump further - and taking them to the extreme required by the fantasy (be it the level in D&D, or the outlandishness of a tall tale). A really strong person can leap over a castle wall - or across the grand canyon, or whatever. That it's impossible IRL doesn't make it unnatural, supernatural, or magical. Conversely, the magical or supernatural are all about doing things that are or at least appear, impossible, but, impossible needn't mean powerful. Hatching a hummingbird out of a chicken egg is quite impossible, but it's not going to win you any battles or anything. [/QUOTE]
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