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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9181314" data-attributes="member: 996">This doesn't quite scan for me. CON has added to hp in every edition, it's added it's modifier to HD in every edition that had HD. In 1e, you could have 14, 15, 18 even 19 HD.CON adds the exact same HP to a 5e character as it did to a 3e character - the 3e character just wouldn't've been capped at 20 CON.It's not a 5e or even WotC mistake... only 4e didn't do it (and, let me tell you, that tripped up every long-time player I ever saw roll up a 4e character for the first time, myself, included)But, like, starting with max hp was a commonplace variant back in the day.In 3e it was official.So, your first level fighter having 10+CONmod hp, was just 'bout normal, traditional, even.&nbsp; (You could start with Toughness in 3e, if you really wanted to, for a few more, but it was a bad idea for your 20-level build, because no retraining.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9181314, member: 996"] This doesn't quite scan for me. CON has added to hp in every edition, it's added it's modifier to HD in every edition that had HD. In 1e, you could have 14, 15, 18 even 19 HD. CON adds the exact same HP to a 5e character as it did to a 3e character - the 3e character just wouldn't've been capped at 20 CON. It's not a 5e or even WotC mistake... only 4e didn't do it (and, let me tell you, that tripped up every long-time player I ever saw roll up a 4e character for the first time, myself, included) But, like, starting with max hp was a commonplace variant back in the day. In 3e it was official. So, your first level fighter having 10+CONmod hp, was just 'bout normal, traditional, even. (You could start with Toughness in 3e, if you really wanted to, for a few more, but it was a bad idea for your 20-level build, because no retraining.) [/QUOTE]

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