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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 9182119" data-attributes="member: 6914290">Yes, I was aware of the increases in fighter capabilities. I was using a rough estimate of 20 damage for fighter damage per attack Someone quoted this earlier, and it sounds about right for something like 2d6 + static mods + other stuff, noting that this is as big a set of damage dice as you can get from the mundane equipment list, and 'other stuff' would have to come from a class resource and/or from stuff like magic items and feats. So roughly 3 attacks for each ogre. 6 attacks to spend at level 12 with action surge. 8 at level 17 (I might actually have been generous with the number of slayable ogres at level 20)I also realize that it is possible to move- attack-move. But IIRC ogres are large creatures and take up 10 ft by 10 ft squares on a grid, so getting them to cluster conveniently within range of 30 ft worth of fighter movement isn't a trivial consideration. It's certainly possible but more difficult than with smaller creatures.That was the thought process anyway. Happy to be fact checked in greater detail if there was something I missed.</blockquote>