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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jd Smith1" data-source="post: 9661529" data-attributes="member: 6998052">Your first mistake is assuming everyone plays D&D.The second is to think that everyone wants collaborative stories in a fantasy world.There is no 'one size fits all'. A lot of new players come to TTRPGs with inspiration from video games or tv/movies, and they just want to kill stuff and gain loot.Sure, simplistic, abstracted rules sets are useful for attracting people who will game a few sessions, but its the gamer who does not flinch at 384 pages that will keep coming back, and most importantly, buy stuff.Which brings us to the truth you completely missed: what the RPG Hobby needs is new members who will buy stuff. It doesn't matter how many play if you have one set of books per table. And lets face it: simpler, abstracted rules don't require buying to use well. But in a hardcore, 384-page system, players are more likely to buy their own copy to peruse between sessions.</blockquote>