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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6313978" data-attributes="member: 18">Hmmmm.I do see what you're saying, but I think that it's kind of bass-ackwards, as they say.You're saying that, because 4E was regularly updated with errata, because the DDI was constantly improved and re-edited and so on (was it? apparently!), and so on, this made using the DDI "functionally" mandatory. Yes?And you apparently object to 5E being this way? Am I misunderstanding?I mean, to me, that seems like cutting off one's nose to spite one's face in a very serious way. I agree that 4E was drastically improved by errata, editing, and so on, and that yes, if you were playing a game with full information from the DDI, you were playing at game that, in certain ways, was much better than the default game (tbh, though, I've played dozens or hundreds of 4E sessions, and needing to access the DDI during the sessions is relatively rare, like, one in four sessions or something - outside of sessions, for character building, monster building, character updating, etc. that's a different story).Maybe I'm misunderstand your argument entirely (it happens), but it seems like you're saying "If 5E has errata that regularly update and improve it, if 5E's rules are re-edited, improved, and so on, in the way they were with 4E's DDI, then 5E will 'functionally' require a DDI", and that will be, in your opinion, a bad thing? Yes/No?Further, I think your case is kind of weird because you're citing the example of one guy in a group not having DDI access, and AFAIK, there was/is absolutely nothing stopping you sharing a login - indeed, I strongly recommend, personally, that all the PCs under one DM are created on the same DDI login (I found that very beneficial, myself). I certainly didn't need that access at the table, even in the way you're describing (if you feel you did, can you explain to me how, with examples? Because seriously, playing since release here, never hard-needed that - at worst I used it to get stuff that I would otherwise have had to get by dragging 7 tons of books around with me).Hope I'm misunderstanding because I really don't want to see 5E avoid errata or other improvements just for the sake of people who are playing offline-only anyway, and who are, at worst, playing a game of quality X, rather than quality X+Y. Certainly they aren't playing a game of quality X minus anything, simply because the DDI or equivalent exists.I hope I don't seem argumentative, I'm just struggling to understand this.</blockquote>

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