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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6314948" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Because whilst it accords with your experience, it doesn't accord with ours? Because we are pretty bright fellows, we actually understand how to critically analyze information, and determine whether it is useless? As the vast majority of studies on this sort of thing are. Most of them are waffle which is directly contradicted by a study released a few months later.</p><p></p><p>I mean, if we listened to every dodgy study, we'd have made D&D illegal years ago, not to mention computer games, which have been the subject of countless studies showing how detrimental they are, and how, indeed, they turn our youth into killers.</p><p></p><p>Further, the study is about laptops being used during a particularly dull <em>lecture</em> - not about a variety of devices being used during a gaming sessions.</p><p></p><p>I strongly suggest you read your study. They basically performed the absolute worst, most worthless kind of lecture, an entirely one-sided affair where the lecturer bleats out stuff which is in the study materials anyway, which is not a situation remotely resembling a D&D game (I hope to god it isn't, anyway, or I've been doing it wrong all these years!). They forced half the class to perform tasks whilst taking notes - the writers of the article claim that their tasks were "representative" of what students do, but they appear to be a bad parody of what old people THINK students do, and even they admit they have no scientific basis whatsoever for either the nature of the tasks, their complexity, their duration, or really any other element of them - which by itself is enough to rob the study of any real scientific basis.</p><p></p><p>Also, is that article even peer-reviewed? I don't recognise the format, but it appears not.</p><p></p><p>EDIT - Also, your claim that the study supports your "wreck the communal experience" theory is completely unsupported by that study. All the study shows is reduced retention of what is essentially rote junk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6314948, member: 18"] Because whilst it accords with your experience, it doesn't accord with ours? Because we are pretty bright fellows, we actually understand how to critically analyze information, and determine whether it is useless? As the vast majority of studies on this sort of thing are. Most of them are waffle which is directly contradicted by a study released a few months later. I mean, if we listened to every dodgy study, we'd have made D&D illegal years ago, not to mention computer games, which have been the subject of countless studies showing how detrimental they are, and how, indeed, they turn our youth into killers. Further, the study is about laptops being used during a particularly dull [I]lecture[/I] - not about a variety of devices being used during a gaming sessions. I strongly suggest you read your study. They basically performed the absolute worst, most worthless kind of lecture, an entirely one-sided affair where the lecturer bleats out stuff which is in the study materials anyway, which is not a situation remotely resembling a D&D game (I hope to god it isn't, anyway, or I've been doing it wrong all these years!). They forced half the class to perform tasks whilst taking notes - the writers of the article claim that their tasks were "representative" of what students do, but they appear to be a bad parody of what old people THINK students do, and even they admit they have no scientific basis whatsoever for either the nature of the tasks, their complexity, their duration, or really any other element of them - which by itself is enough to rob the study of any real scientific basis. Also, is that article even peer-reviewed? I don't recognise the format, but it appears not. EDIT - Also, your claim that the study supports your "wreck the communal experience" theory is completely unsupported by that study. All the study shows is reduced retention of what is essentially rote junk. [/QUOTE]
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