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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6945597" data-attributes="member: 12731">The ship might have sailed on that one. Fighter and Barbarian multiclass builds have great synergy.Not sure what you could accomplish from a non-savage non-magic Barbarian that you can't accomplish with a few or many Fighter levels.A non-magical Barbarian? A Champion with three levels of Berserk Barbarian.A non-savage Barbarian? A Totem Barbarian with three levels of Battlemaster.&nbsp; Not trying to shut you down. Trying to explain this might be a &quot;not seeing the wood for all the trees&quot; kind of deal you're having...Even if they create your dream subclass, not sure I'd take it over the super juicy Action Surge and Second Wind I get with MCing... I guess I think we should embrace the way Fighter classes works so very great with almost all martial classes as a positive for this edition.Agreed on the nonspec wiz: people scream for it w/o realizing there is no need for it. And I certainly think a wiz subclass that trades away all the school features for simply more spells and slots would be a mistake. That's the sorcerer all over again &quot;if you don't want a theme you get more power&quot;.Having ALL wizards have a theme is brilliant. Don't listen to those saying &quot;I want to be a generalist&quot;, unless you make that a theme by itself. (It would make for a great case for a metamagic wizard <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6945597, member: 12731"] The ship might have sailed on that one. Fighter and Barbarian multiclass builds have great synergy. Not sure what you could accomplish from a non-savage non-magic Barbarian that you can't accomplish with a few or many Fighter levels. A non-magical Barbarian? A Champion with three levels of Berserk Barbarian. A non-savage Barbarian? A Totem Barbarian with three levels of Battlemaster. Not trying to shut you down. Trying to explain this might be a "not seeing the wood for all the trees" kind of deal you're having... Even if they create your dream subclass, not sure I'd take it over the super juicy Action Surge and Second Wind I get with MCing... I guess I think we should embrace the way Fighter classes works so [I]very great[/I] with almost all martial classes as a positive for this edition. Agreed on the nonspec wiz: people scream for it w/o realizing there is no need for it. And I certainly think a wiz subclass that trades away all the school features for simply more spells and slots would be a mistake. That's the sorcerer all over again "if you don't want a theme you get more power". Having ALL wizards have a theme is brilliant. Don't listen to those saying "I want to be a generalist", unless you make that a theme by itself. (It would make for a great case for a metamagic wizard ;) ) [/QUOTE]

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