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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 5104380" data-attributes="member: 32536">Honestly, I have never heard any kind of definition for "videogamey" that made much sense. More often than not, when someone uses the term "videogamey" they come off as ignorant and elitist, and the only meaning they get across is that they don't like whatever it is they are talking about and apparently think videogames are some lesser form of entertainment that can only contaminate tabletop RPGs. All told, I have never seen it actually help a conversation.Personally, I dislike the term with a burning passion. Particularly since people who use the term "videogamey" tend to want to avoid any potentially meaningful conversation about what videogames they might be referring to.Honestly, even some of the definitions used in this thread don't make a lot of sense to me. Saying that videogamey means "lots of cheap +1 items rather than singular Excaliburs" doesn't make a lot of sense, because that portrayal of items is almost a pure D&Dism, and just about any videogame that uses that system is showing an influence from D&D. Many games actually use the opposite approach, especially if you get outside of the RPG genre (the highly influential action game Devil May Cry only has four objects you can call magic items, and they are extremely defining to your character's abilities and don't have any numerical aspects). Saying that videogamey means "lots of transparent access to the math and construction of things" doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense to me either, since I find that the opposite is true for most videogames (in most videogames, the actual numerical side of the game is almost frustratingly obscured and undocumented).Honestly, I think the staggering variety of videogames and the large number of different perceptions people have regarding videogames makes it basically impossible for the term "videogamey" to have any meaning that two people can agree upon.</blockquote>

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