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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 5105389" data-attributes="member: 18701">The OP asked a question and I gave my own answer. I provided an example of what I think is videogamey because if I didn't, then people would complain that I just made a blanket statement. I wanted to back up my thoughts with an example. I can give examples of what I think is videogamey from 2nd & 3rd edition also, but 4e is easier for me to use as an example because it seems more noticeable in 4e. If you want, I will copy & paste my original post and give examples in a 2e & 3e response, but I warn you, it'll be just as boring to read. I have not made any statements that I'm trying to bash a specific edition, so please, don't then proceed to turn it into an edition debate by hollering out things like, "Hey, sounds like you're trying to bash 4e!" That's just being an instigator & is just as annoying as the people who intentionally try to bash an edition to piss people off.I don't have a problem discussing these small details. The OP asked for a definition for videogamey, and hashing things out is the best way to get to an answer. Or, I could just say what the majority of people said and go with, "I use it to say something sucks". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> I dont' really know how else to answer the question and give examples at the same time without someone thinking I'm trying to bash an edition.Seeing as how there is no definition (this thread proves it), I'm not sure how I'm mucking anything up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I'm not so sure I understand the term gamist. Maybe we need a thread to define that also? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />By gamist, do you mean a system put in place for no reason other than it making the game funner without any logic needed behind it? The game comes first, realism comes last?That's a good comparison. But overall, I still have a hard time accepting that logic. If my max HP is 100, and I'm getting wounded a lot by a sword, and afterwards the adrenaline wears off and I bandage myself up, it would still be possible for me to be at 100 HP again by using Healing Surges...meaning, I'm in perfect condition again. But why? I still have serious wounds that should not already be healed and allowing me to feel perfectly fine again.That is pretty much how I see it. I may not prefer that style of D&D, but that doesn't mean that others shouldn't enjoy it. Whatever floats your boat is cool with me.</blockquote>

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