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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5105601" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I agree. And at several times when trying to compose a post I've thought about bringing 'choose your own adventure' style books (particularly those like the Lone Wolf books that allowed for character advancement) as examples of solo RPGs which share with cRPG's this characteristic (and others). You are correct that interactive media in general will share a large number of features with each other. It might also be the case that there are things which pertain more closely one sort of interactive media ('choose-you-own-adventure-y' things) than they do to another ('videogamey' things). </p><p></p><p>And eventually, if we discuss those things enough we might develop a formal language for discussing them which sounds less stupid than 'choose-your-own-adventure-y' and 'videogamey'. But in the mean time, 'videogamey' captures the heart of the idea in a way that no other phrase that readily comes to mind does. I'd gladly entertain suggestions though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And as I've said before, it's not at all clear that there is a single key issue to be discussed here. That's why my post mentioned five separate otherwise unrelated points which are joined I think by the idea of 'videogamey'. And they are by no means I think inclusive. I don't want to suggest that my definition is as yet all encompassing and definitive. But if we want to talk about systems that hidebound the moderator or players as thing of interest in and of itself, then sure, we can slap a label on that idea of some sort and start to talk about it as a separate thing. However, we will then not be discussing the larger class of 'videogamey things' but one specific issue pertaining thereto. And its not yet clear to me that this is the central issue, much less the sole one.</p><p></p><p>I'll tell you what doesn't add anything to the discussion IMO, and that is people who aren't adding anything to the discussion repeatedly thread crapping to say how 'videogamey' doesn't add anything to the discussion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5105601, member: 4937"] I agree. And at several times when trying to compose a post I've thought about bringing 'choose your own adventure' style books (particularly those like the Lone Wolf books that allowed for character advancement) as examples of solo RPGs which share with cRPG's this characteristic (and others). You are correct that interactive media in general will share a large number of features with each other. It might also be the case that there are things which pertain more closely one sort of interactive media ('choose-you-own-adventure-y' things) than they do to another ('videogamey' things). And eventually, if we discuss those things enough we might develop a formal language for discussing them which sounds less stupid than 'choose-your-own-adventure-y' and 'videogamey'. But in the mean time, 'videogamey' captures the heart of the idea in a way that no other phrase that readily comes to mind does. I'd gladly entertain suggestions though. And as I've said before, it's not at all clear that there is a single key issue to be discussed here. That's why my post mentioned five separate otherwise unrelated points which are joined I think by the idea of 'videogamey'. And they are by no means I think inclusive. I don't want to suggest that my definition is as yet all encompassing and definitive. But if we want to talk about systems that hidebound the moderator or players as thing of interest in and of itself, then sure, we can slap a label on that idea of some sort and start to talk about it as a separate thing. However, we will then not be discussing the larger class of 'videogamey things' but one specific issue pertaining thereto. And its not yet clear to me that this is the central issue, much less the sole one. I'll tell you what doesn't add anything to the discussion IMO, and that is people who aren't adding anything to the discussion repeatedly thread crapping to say how 'videogamey' doesn't add anything to the discussion. [/QUOTE]
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