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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 5105799" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>Whether something is or is not "videogamey" is probably an opinion that can't really be changed. Mainly because it's possible to find similarities and differences in any two items. It is as much "videogamey" as it is not "videogamey". That's an argument that is best not to have.</p><p></p><p>But whether a particular person likes or dislikes something is an opinion that might be changed. Certainly people have gone from disliking something to liking something in the past.</p><p></p><p>Now, if someone shows up on a message board saying "I don't like this game because of the videogamey healing surges", how does the word videogamey in that sentence help it at all? If they had shown up and said "I don't like this game because of healing surges" it would be the same thing without the confusing reference to video games that doesn't seem to be relevant. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Because we're here to have discussions. Discussions require understanding. Videogamey doesn't foster understanding. I'm not here to argue whether something is or is not videogamey. To me, that doesn't matter. There are good and bad things about video games. I'm trying to get at the root of WHY they don't like 4e so that I can understand. I like to be able to see things from other points of views. I like to be able to say "Alright, when viewed through that lens, I can understand why you don't like it." I can disagree but still understand.</p><p></p><p>But "It is videogamey" doesn't help me understand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that's the problem. I don't think any of us here are trying to convince people that videogamey means something other than what they are saying it means. We are here to suggest that the term stop being used entirely because all it does is make people angry. You've already said that you purposefully use it for its negative connotations in the other thread. Showing up in a thread and saying things purposefully that you know are going to make people angry is pretty much the definition of trolling. Why not stick to more neutral terms?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 5105799, member: 5143"] Whether something is or is not "videogamey" is probably an opinion that can't really be changed. Mainly because it's possible to find similarities and differences in any two items. It is as much "videogamey" as it is not "videogamey". That's an argument that is best not to have. But whether a particular person likes or dislikes something is an opinion that might be changed. Certainly people have gone from disliking something to liking something in the past. Now, if someone shows up on a message board saying "I don't like this game because of the videogamey healing surges", how does the word videogamey in that sentence help it at all? If they had shown up and said "I don't like this game because of healing surges" it would be the same thing without the confusing reference to video games that doesn't seem to be relevant. Because we're here to have discussions. Discussions require understanding. Videogamey doesn't foster understanding. I'm not here to argue whether something is or is not videogamey. To me, that doesn't matter. There are good and bad things about video games. I'm trying to get at the root of WHY they don't like 4e so that I can understand. I like to be able to see things from other points of views. I like to be able to say "Alright, when viewed through that lens, I can understand why you don't like it." I can disagree but still understand. But "It is videogamey" doesn't help me understand. I think that's the problem. I don't think any of us here are trying to convince people that videogamey means something other than what they are saying it means. We are here to suggest that the term stop being used entirely because all it does is make people angry. You've already said that you purposefully use it for its negative connotations in the other thread. Showing up in a thread and saying things purposefully that you know are going to make people angry is pretty much the definition of trolling. Why not stick to more neutral terms? [/QUOTE]
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