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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5106269" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I don't think that "works better [on the whole] as a [directly ported in its entirety into a] video game" is a good definition for 'videogamey', but if you want to defend it I'd be interested in hearing your argument.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem with 'unrealistic' is that it doesn't seem to capture the idea well, as we can easily come up with examples of things that are 'unrealistic' (hit points) that don't seem to trigger the 'videogamey' experience. We can also come up with things that are 'unintuitive' (THAC0, low AC being good), which aren't even remotely related to 'videogamey'. So I think that as definitions, 'unrealistic' is both too broad and too narrow. It excludes things in the set covered by 'videogamey' and includes things that aren't in it. It's quite possible that there is some overlap, especially for special applications of the word 'realistic' (and RPG players tend to use that word in alot of special ways), but I don't see the two sets as congruent.</p><p></p><p>Besides which, I'd like to avoid the word 'realistic' or anything derived from it, as the word is already loaded with definitions and shades of meaning when RPGers use it. It's frankly less concise and easy to understand what is meant than 'videogamey'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And if I knew what they were, I'd surely use them. To be fully and frankly conceited, I don't think the problem is the impoverishment of my vocabulary.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>None of which have been remotely adequate, in part because I do think they were sincere attempts to be helpful, but rather they were attempts to be dismissive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. Indeed, we'd be almost home if we weren't in fact fully there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5106269, member: 4937"] I don't think that "works better [on the whole] as a [directly ported in its entirety into a] video game" is a good definition for 'videogamey', but if you want to defend it I'd be interested in hearing your argument. The problem with 'unrealistic' is that it doesn't seem to capture the idea well, as we can easily come up with examples of things that are 'unrealistic' (hit points) that don't seem to trigger the 'videogamey' experience. We can also come up with things that are 'unintuitive' (THAC0, low AC being good), which aren't even remotely related to 'videogamey'. So I think that as definitions, 'unrealistic' is both too broad and too narrow. It excludes things in the set covered by 'videogamey' and includes things that aren't in it. It's quite possible that there is some overlap, especially for special applications of the word 'realistic' (and RPG players tend to use that word in alot of special ways), but I don't see the two sets as congruent. Besides which, I'd like to avoid the word 'realistic' or anything derived from it, as the word is already loaded with definitions and shades of meaning when RPGers use it. It's frankly less concise and easy to understand what is meant than 'videogamey'. And if I knew what they were, I'd surely use them. To be fully and frankly conceited, I don't think the problem is the impoverishment of my vocabulary. None of which have been remotely adequate, in part because I do think they were sincere attempts to be helpful, but rather they were attempts to be dismissive. Agreed. Indeed, we'd be almost home if we weren't in fact fully there. [/QUOTE]
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