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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5107363" data-attributes="member: 18280">@ Garthanos:Upthread, I pointed out that "D&D" is at least as vague a term as "videogamey".  Is D&D a useless term?Upthread, didn't you suggest that the hit-swingy-ness of 1e was videogamey?  Did anyone contradict you, claim that your meaning was too broad, or claim that the term had no meaning?  Would you care to speculate why no one felt insulted that you called 1e videogamey, although apparently calling 4e videogaming is insulting?Upthread, I also agreed (and I do not think that I was alone in so stating) that earlier editions also have videogamey elements.  These elements may have originated in the pnp games, but by their adoption in video games, they have become reminiscent of video games.  There's something cyclic about this trend, isn't there?Or take something like "It is an attempt to insult and enrage people. In that case, the meaning is also clear. It's deragotory, and it doesn't really matter what specifically the poster meant." and parse it out:*  The clear meaning is that the poster doesn't like the elements described as videogamey.*  The reason for the poster to have post clear meaning is to "insult and enrage people".*  Therefore, "it doesn't really matter what specifically the poster meant".Conversely, imagine,*  The clear meaning is that the poster doesn't like the elements described as videogamey.*  The reason for the poster to have post clear meaning is because he feels insulted by the inclusion of the element.*  Therefore, it matters what specifically the poster meant, as the poster might, upon reflection, decide that the element is not as insulting as he supposed.Or, contrast again to*  The clear meaning is that the poster doesn't like the elements described as videogamey.*  The reason for the poster to have post clear meaning is because he feels isolated in his opinion and hopes to learn that others share it.Again, it is the perception that the poster has a negative opinion that is the crux of the matter.  And, again, the proposed solution is that he not express that negative opinion.  Effectively, "You can share any opinion you like, so long as we agree with them."RC</blockquote>

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