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<blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 3699807" data-attributes="member: 32536">Who cares if this &quot;Linkin Park&quot; is better than Mozart or not? It is a flawed analogy to our discussion, and is useless for said discussion. Please, gizmo33, stop trying to frame those of us arguing for objective standards as &quot;art heirophant elitists&quot;. It is not winning you any arguments.But, if we are discussing music as a comparison... Imagine that we are creating guidelines for choosing a song to fit a certain scene in a movie or something. I argue that there you can't just pick a song at random from a playlist, and get an equally good result regardless.Say, we are picking music for an epic battle scene in a historical war movie. Unless you want to be doing something really wierd with the movie (like Kubrick's use of romance music in the opening plane-refuleing scene in Dr. Strangelove), then you want to use certain kinds of music. Lullabies, children's songs, or well known songs from broadway musicals will probably not work. Electric guitar riffs or powerful classical music would probably work better, all depending on the goal of the director.As perhaps a different music analogy, imagine a musician going to to create a new heavy death metal album. Which would be a better choice: electric guitars and drums, or flutes and clarinets? Which would he chose if he was trying to make an accurate performance of a Mozart piece? A full orchestra or a bunch of guys with banjos?These are totally subjective choices, but I don't care about subjectivity or objectivity. Some things work, and others don't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwinBahamut, post: 3699807, member: 32536"] Who cares if this "Linkin Park" is better than Mozart or not? It is a flawed analogy to our discussion, and is useless for said discussion. Please, gizmo33, stop trying to frame those of us arguing for objective standards as "art heirophant elitists". It is not winning you any arguments. But, if we are discussing music as a comparison... Imagine that we are creating guidelines for choosing a song to fit a certain scene in a movie or something. I argue that there you can't just pick a song at random from a playlist, and get an equally good result regardless. Say, we are picking music for an epic battle scene in a historical war movie. Unless you want to be doing something really wierd with the movie (like Kubrick's use of romance music in the opening plane-refuleing scene in [i]Dr. Strangelove[/i]), then you want to use certain kinds of music. Lullabies, children's songs, or well known songs from broadway musicals will probably not work. Electric guitar riffs or powerful classical music would probably work better, all depending on the goal of the director. As perhaps a different music analogy, imagine a musician going to to create a new heavy death metal album. Which would be a better choice: electric guitars and drums, or flutes and clarinets? Which would he chose if he was trying to make an accurate performance of a Mozart piece? A full orchestra or a bunch of guys with banjos? These are totally subjective choices, but I don't care about subjectivity or objectivity. Some things work, and others don't. [/QUOTE]

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