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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8761826" data-attributes="member: 67338">neither am I, but I can show you that no action surge, and disarming strike, are NOT magic... I just need to be clear what we are taking aboutright, and many have been put forward over the last 3 months aloneokay, so Bo9S has supernatural (so you can call that magic) and non supernatural abilities... you can't call non supernatural abilities magic or spellsexcept you basicly said &quot;cause I said so&quot;I don't keep notes on who said what so maybeso anytime no roll is needed... so again action surge, sneak attack, rage... using this definition EVERY ability that doesn't require an activation roll is magic.why is robin hood magic?beyond mundane... doesn't equal magic, this is a fantasy game. wrestlers do things that require special FX, hidden ropes, and tricks, and no body calls that magic.becuse this is a class based systemexcept this breaks your rule...so we are back to 'cause you say so'again not everyone can train to do it... infact people who DO TRAIN TO HIT BETTER don't get it... knock it off no religon talk on here</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8761826, member: 67338"] neither am I, but I can show you that no action surge, and disarming strike, are NOT magic... I just need to be clear what we are taking about right, and many have been put forward over the last 3 months alone okay, so Bo9S has supernatural (so you can call that magic) and non supernatural abilities... you can't call non supernatural abilities magic or spells except you basicly said "cause I said so" I don't keep notes on who said what so maybe so anytime no roll is needed... so again action surge, sneak attack, rage... using this definition EVERY ability that doesn't require an activation roll is magic. why is robin hood magic? beyond mundane... doesn't equal magic, this is a fantasy game. wrestlers do things that require special FX, hidden ropes, and tricks, and no body calls that magic. becuse this is a class based system except this breaks your rule... so we are back to 'cause you say so' again not everyone can train to do it... infact people who DO TRAIN TO HIT BETTER don't get it... knock it off no religon talk on here [/QUOTE]

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