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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5058916" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Actually, it is.</p><p></p><p>Group Skill Check. DMG page 75. And update:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For example, one PC is talking to the merchant with Diplomacy and another PC also uses Diplomacy to sway the conversation.</p><p></p><p>What good is the skill if it cannot be used?</p><p></p><p>It's my turn. What am I doing? I'm doing Aid Another of Fred's next Diplomacy:</p><p></p><p>"Yes Sir Duke, I have heard of your daughter's death. You have my most sincere condolances."</p><p></p><p>This diplomacy check doesn't convince the Duke of anything, but it helps put the Duke in the proper frame of mind for Fred's Diplomacy check a moment later in the encounter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Where are the rules that a secondary skill check only adds +2? I cannot find any such rules. As far as I can tell and I looked in both the DMG and the update, the secondary skill check can be whatever the DM wants.</p><p></p><p>He can make it a +2 bonus to a different skill. But, the typical default appears to be that he make it another skill challenge completely. The DC is higher, but the success is a success and a failure is a failure.</p><p></p><p>The only place where it indicates that a secondary skill can give a +2 bonus is in the example. It doesn't say anywhere that I can find that this is the default use of a secondary skill.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5058916, member: 2011"] Actually, it is. Group Skill Check. DMG page 75. And update: For example, one PC is talking to the merchant with Diplomacy and another PC also uses Diplomacy to sway the conversation. What good is the skill if it cannot be used? It's my turn. What am I doing? I'm doing Aid Another of Fred's next Diplomacy: "Yes Sir Duke, I have heard of your daughter's death. You have my most sincere condolances." This diplomacy check doesn't convince the Duke of anything, but it helps put the Duke in the proper frame of mind for Fred's Diplomacy check a moment later in the encounter. Where are the rules that a secondary skill check only adds +2? I cannot find any such rules. As far as I can tell and I looked in both the DMG and the update, the secondary skill check can be whatever the DM wants. He can make it a +2 bonus to a different skill. But, the typical default appears to be that he make it another skill challenge completely. The DC is higher, but the success is a success and a failure is a failure. The only place where it indicates that a secondary skill can give a +2 bonus is in the example. It doesn't say anywhere that I can find that this is the default use of a secondary skill. [/QUOTE]
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