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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5059060" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, we can argue endlessly&nbsp; but the fact remains that nothing in the SC system guarantees players the right to Aid Another. Assuming that it is an option on all checks at all times makes a mockery of a good bit of the system so I fail to see where it is a warranted assumption. Secondary Skill checks in the generic sense are something that the player HAS to justify. Again they are not ENTITLED to them. The player has to come up with an idea and nothing even suggests that any random hairbrained scheme is worth a check. Notice the 2nd paragraph in the section &quot;Reward Clever Ideas&quot; on DMG75 where it talks about secondary skills (for the 2nd time, p73 says pretty much the same thing). These skills need to be justified and the DM is advised to allow them only when they make sense.And again, most challenges define specific mechanics for likely secondary skill uses. The whole concept of secondary skills makes no sense if AA is allowed everywhere without any DM moderation. Frankly I almost never allow it and I'd strongly advise other DMs to do the same.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5059060, member: 82106"] Well, we can argue endlessly but the fact remains that nothing in the SC system guarantees players the right to Aid Another. Assuming that it is an option on all checks at all times makes a mockery of a good bit of the system so I fail to see where it is a warranted assumption. Secondary Skill checks in the generic sense are something that the player HAS to justify. Again they are not ENTITLED to them. The player has to come up with an idea and nothing even suggests that any random hairbrained scheme is worth a check. Notice the 2nd paragraph in the section "Reward Clever Ideas" on DMG75 where it talks about secondary skills (for the 2nd time, p73 says pretty much the same thing). These skills need to be justified and the DM is advised to allow them only when they make sense. And again, most challenges define specific mechanics for likely secondary skill uses. The whole concept of secondary skills makes no sense if AA is allowed everywhere without any DM moderation. Frankly I almost never allow it and I'd strongly advise other DMs to do the same. [/QUOTE]

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