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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5059074" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>No, the PHB allows it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no specific skill challenge rule in the DMG that overrides this general rule.</p><p></p><p>The update just verified it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Secondary skill checks have nothing to do with Aid Another. They are just another skill, merely a skill the DM did not think of when creating the challenge. There is nothing special about them. If the DM disallows them, he does. What has that to do with Aid Another?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is the skill in the list of skills for the skill challenge? Yup. Then one can Aid Another that skill.</p><p></p><p>Is the secondary skill one that the DM allows for the skill challenge? Yup. Then one can Aid Another that secondary skill.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It might not make sense to you (it makes sense to me like the example I posted earlier). I do not even understand why it doesn't make sense to you to have two PCs combined their history knowledge or combine their diplomacy. People brainstorm stuff all of the time. People work together on things all of the time.</p><p></p><p>Your method forces every PC to work solo. Yuck.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not quite sure why you think your POV on this is correct when the rules disagree with you. shrug</p><p></p><p>Nothing you have written is even close to a rule that indicates or suggests that Aid Another cannot be done and the update explicitly clarified it.</p><p></p><p>The +2 "reason" you gave earlier is moot. The +2 wasn't for secondary skill challenge, it was for DM's Best Friend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5059074, member: 2011"] No, the PHB allows it. There is no specific skill challenge rule in the DMG that overrides this general rule. The update just verified it. Secondary skill checks have nothing to do with Aid Another. They are just another skill, merely a skill the DM did not think of when creating the challenge. There is nothing special about them. If the DM disallows them, he does. What has that to do with Aid Another? Is the skill in the list of skills for the skill challenge? Yup. Then one can Aid Another that skill. Is the secondary skill one that the DM allows for the skill challenge? Yup. Then one can Aid Another that secondary skill. It might not make sense to you (it makes sense to me like the example I posted earlier). I do not even understand why it doesn't make sense to you to have two PCs combined their history knowledge or combine their diplomacy. People brainstorm stuff all of the time. People work together on things all of the time. Your method forces every PC to work solo. Yuck. I'm not quite sure why you think your POV on this is correct when the rules disagree with you. shrug Nothing you have written is even close to a rule that indicates or suggests that Aid Another cannot be done and the update explicitly clarified it. The +2 "reason" you gave earlier is moot. The +2 wasn't for secondary skill challenge, it was for DM's Best Friend. [/QUOTE]
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