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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5060070" data-attributes="member: 82106">I think you missed MY point KD or you just keep ignoring it. The whole thing about secondary skills is just an example of the concept that the SC system doesn't anticipate one character making all the rolls with the other characters simply aiding them. It doesn't make sense if you interpret it that way. REGARDLESS of what the effect of using a secondary skill is why would ANY character ever do anything except aid the guy with the highest skill bonus on the easiest skill in the SC? Might as well just have no other skill even specified at all. Obviously the guy that wrote the SC system did NOT anticipate that people would interpret it to mean that aiding was always universally allowed. You can go on all you want to about &quot;DM's Friend&quot; or whatever the heck but it just doesn't matter, its at best VERY tangential to the point I was making. If you care to address that point directly I'd certainly be interested in hearing an alternate take on it, but there's no point in going on with a pointless discussion of a side issue. Aiding, by whatever mechanism may exist for it, is either optional and not the norm, or the skill challenge system itself in general simply doesn't really make sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5060070, member: 82106"] I think you missed MY point KD or you just keep ignoring it. The whole thing about secondary skills is just an example of the concept that the SC system doesn't anticipate one character making all the rolls with the other characters simply aiding them. It doesn't make sense if you interpret it that way. REGARDLESS of what the effect of using a secondary skill is why would ANY character ever do anything except aid the guy with the highest skill bonus on the easiest skill in the SC? Might as well just have no other skill even specified at all. Obviously the guy that wrote the SC system did NOT anticipate that people would interpret it to mean that aiding was always universally allowed. You can go on all you want to about "DM's Friend" or whatever the heck but it just doesn't matter, its at best VERY tangential to the point I was making. If you care to address that point directly I'd certainly be interested in hearing an alternate take on it, but there's no point in going on with a pointless discussion of a side issue. Aiding, by whatever mechanism may exist for it, is either optional and not the norm, or the skill challenge system itself in general simply doesn't really make sense. [/QUOTE]

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