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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5069924" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, one question would be is this really different from other editions? I mean even if it isn't that doesn't say that 4e doesn't do it poorly but it puts it more in the category of &quot;D&amp;D or level based systems in general do it poorly&quot;. Having gone over the math some on various creatures with this in mind I think that 4e's power curve is based less on items and more on intrinsic attributes of the character, so in that sense it IS a bit harder to take on much higher level creatures. A 1e party of say 3rd level with a few good items can take on a giant and with some luck win. A 4e party would be less likely to win, but its still not impossible.I have used a level+7 monster BTW and had a good encounter with it, so clearly its not entirely crazy. I wouldn't recommend it as a standard practice but if the DM understands the rules and the party well enough and the encounter is designed properly it can work and even be pretty fun. I'm not sure if this means 4e doesn't do it poorly or exactly where we would draw the line between OK and poor. One could as well say that it is a strength of D&amp;D since the opposite situation is sort of like playing Call of Cthulhu were no matter what you do any old monster may well eat your face off and fighting is thus VERY risky. That's the problem with flattening the curve, pretty soon level advancement stops meaning much and your 10th level fighter may just be felled by a goblin.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5069924, member: 82106"] Well, one question would be is this really different from other editions? I mean even if it isn't that doesn't say that 4e doesn't do it poorly but it puts it more in the category of "D&D or level based systems in general do it poorly". Having gone over the math some on various creatures with this in mind I think that 4e's power curve is based less on items and more on intrinsic attributes of the character, so in that sense it IS a bit harder to take on much higher level creatures. A 1e party of say 3rd level with a few good items can take on a giant and with some luck win. A 4e party would be less likely to win, but its still not impossible. I have used a level+7 monster BTW and had a good encounter with it, so clearly its not entirely crazy. I wouldn't recommend it as a standard practice but if the DM understands the rules and the party well enough and the encounter is designed properly it can work and even be pretty fun. I'm not sure if this means 4e doesn't do it poorly or exactly where we would draw the line between OK and poor. One could as well say that it is a strength of D&D since the opposite situation is sort of like playing Call of Cthulhu were no matter what you do any old monster may well eat your face off and fighting is thus VERY risky. That's the problem with flattening the curve, pretty soon level advancement stops meaning much and your 10th level fighter may just be felled by a goblin. [/QUOTE]

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