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<blockquote data-quote="Saracenus" data-source="post: 5797772" data-attributes="member: 47839"><p>I love reading posts like this (and there are a bunch here) talking about what someone wants/demands/will not abide without. Its only wind in the forest moving the trees.</p><p></p><p>However, the open playtest is the great equalizer. Folks will see what the developers and designers have been working on. Folks will put forth their likes and dislikes and feedback will be had directly from those who are engaged in the process. Things will then change/morph/mutate, others will solidify.</p><p></p><p>All through this D&D 5e will be something for a vast majority of players and DMs will enjoy playing, not some faction that claims primacy. </p><p></p><p>They have already talked about the 10%, you know those lovable 10% that loooooooooove themselves some Gnomes (or insert X thing from Y version of D&D) that will be unhappy if their part of the game isn't validated.</p><p></p><p>They are going to cater to the largest possible audience and that means the 10% that loooooooooooove themselves some Tieflings, Dragonborn and Warlords (insert X that you don't like) are going to get love too. D&D Next core will not 100% cater to your very specific needs. Start managing your expectations now.</p><p></p><p>There are going to be things you love about D&D Next and others you absolutely loath in it. The beauty is, you will be able to pick and choose what you want to keep and toss away. You will be able to make it your game. And if core doesn't float your boat you will be able to customize your game with modular rule sets.</p><p></p><p>So I come to the crux of this post, what possible good is coming from taking a hard stand now? We really don't have enough information to form such a stand. Even if we did, the end result is in flux so what is the point?</p><p></p><p>In the end I am much more excited by the desire of WotC to include people, in the process of building this edition and validating their play styles, rather than restricting it to a small vision. </p><p></p><p>As much as I love 4e as an elegant version of D&D (and I have played/DMed them all) I know that it left a lot of people out in the cold. That is not acceptable. I want an edition that allows me to play with all my D&D brethren, not one that excludes them. I am so incredibly tired of fighting with them about which version is better or truer, or more importantly the funnest. I hope to see you at the metaphorical and literal table.</p><p></p><p>My two coppers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saracenus, post: 5797772, member: 47839"] I love reading posts like this (and there are a bunch here) talking about what someone wants/demands/will not abide without. Its only wind in the forest moving the trees. However, the open playtest is the great equalizer. Folks will see what the developers and designers have been working on. Folks will put forth their likes and dislikes and feedback will be had directly from those who are engaged in the process. Things will then change/morph/mutate, others will solidify. All through this D&D 5e will be something for a vast majority of players and DMs will enjoy playing, not some faction that claims primacy. They have already talked about the 10%, you know those lovable 10% that loooooooooove themselves some Gnomes (or insert X thing from Y version of D&D) that will be unhappy if their part of the game isn't validated. They are going to cater to the largest possible audience and that means the 10% that loooooooooooove themselves some Tieflings, Dragonborn and Warlords (insert X that you don't like) are going to get love too. D&D Next core will not 100% cater to your very specific needs. Start managing your expectations now. There are going to be things you love about D&D Next and others you absolutely loath in it. The beauty is, you will be able to pick and choose what you want to keep and toss away. You will be able to make it your game. And if core doesn't float your boat you will be able to customize your game with modular rule sets. So I come to the crux of this post, what possible good is coming from taking a hard stand now? We really don't have enough information to form such a stand. Even if we did, the end result is in flux so what is the point? In the end I am much more excited by the desire of WotC to include people, in the process of building this edition and validating their play styles, rather than restricting it to a small vision. As much as I love 4e as an elegant version of D&D (and I have played/DMed them all) I know that it left a lot of people out in the cold. That is not acceptable. I want an edition that allows me to play with all my D&D brethren, not one that excludes them. I am so incredibly tired of fighting with them about which version is better or truer, or more importantly the funnest. I hope to see you at the metaphorical and literal table. My two coppers [/QUOTE]
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