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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3925339" data-attributes="member: 2020">Yeah, exactly.&nbsp; And here's another common experience I had from those days:&nbsp; DM:&nbsp; Ok, the party has initiative over the orcs.&nbsp; The fighter rolled highest, and he goes first.&nbsp; Orc leader:&nbsp; 'since we lost initiative, we all come to a halt.'&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; reaches back and starts rummaging in his backpack (which was securely closed, but somehow he opened it.&nbsp; We won't ask how.)&nbsp; Orcs:&nbsp; 'Since our leader says halt, we halt.&nbsp; We aim our bows and ready our swords and wait.'&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; finds the oil flask amidst all the other stuff crammed into that backpack, and pulls it out.&nbsp; Orcs:&nbsp; wait patiently&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; unstoppers the oil flask&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; while holding the oil flask, opens and digs in one of his belt pouches for flint and tinder&nbsp; Orcs:&nbsp; wait patiently&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; finds flint and tinder, tries lighting the oil flask this way (since it is only common lamp oil, and it was never prepared as greek fire is, and even *were* it prepared, lighting it with ... flint and tinder?)&nbsp; Orcs:&nbsp; wait patiently&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; succeeds in lighting the oil flask&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; rears back, ready to throw oil flask, his cloak billowing back (if he is wearing a cloak, just how did he reach through it to get to his backpack in the first place?)&nbsp; Orcs:&nbsp; Still patiently wait, bows loaded and arrows ready to fly in a split second ... but as reasonable orcs they obey the initiative rules&nbsp; Fighter:&nbsp; throws the oil flask!&nbsp; It hits!&nbsp; And somehow, a heavy leather flask designed to hold oil and not leak (and which survived being crammed in the backpack with all the other stuff through other battles) shatters into a million pieces!&nbsp; And oil splashes over all the orcs!&nbsp; 2 to 12 points of damage.&nbsp; The orcs burn.&nbsp; The orcs all die, except their leader.&nbsp; Orc leader:&nbsp; Is it my turn yet?&nbsp; DM:&nbsp; No.&nbsp; All these other people in the party go next.&nbsp; You gotta wait your turn, guy.&nbsp; Orc leader:&nbsp; oh ...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3925339, member: 2020"] Yeah, exactly. And here's another common experience I had from those days: DM: Ok, the party has initiative over the orcs. The fighter rolled highest, and he goes first. Orc leader: 'since we lost initiative, we all come to a halt.' Fighter: reaches back and starts rummaging in his backpack (which was securely closed, but somehow he opened it. We won't ask how.) Orcs: 'Since our leader says halt, we halt. We aim our bows and ready our swords and wait.' Fighter: finds the oil flask amidst all the other stuff crammed into that backpack, and pulls it out. Orcs: wait patiently Fighter: unstoppers the oil flask Fighter: while holding the oil flask, opens and digs in one of his belt pouches for flint and tinder Orcs: wait patiently Fighter: finds flint and tinder, tries lighting the oil flask this way (since it is only common lamp oil, and it was never prepared as greek fire is, and even *were* it prepared, lighting it with ... flint and tinder?) Orcs: wait patiently Fighter: succeeds in lighting the oil flask Fighter: rears back, ready to throw oil flask, his cloak billowing back (if he is wearing a cloak, just how did he reach through it to get to his backpack in the first place?) Orcs: Still patiently wait, bows loaded and arrows ready to fly in a split second ... but as reasonable orcs they obey the initiative rules Fighter: throws the oil flask! It hits! And somehow, a heavy leather flask designed to hold oil and not leak (and which survived being crammed in the backpack with all the other stuff through other battles) shatters into a million pieces! And oil splashes over all the orcs! 2 to 12 points of damage. The orcs burn. The orcs all die, except their leader. Orc leader: Is it my turn yet? DM: No. All these other people in the party go next. You gotta wait your turn, guy. Orc leader: oh ... [/QUOTE]

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