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<blockquote data-quote="BookTenTiger" data-source="post: 8980417" data-attributes="member: 6685541">I really enjoy both running dungeons as a DM and exploring dungeons as a player.I think my friend put it best when he said that a good dungeon feels like every room is a little puzzle. You enter, figure out what is going on, and choose how to solve it. Maybe you fight, maybe you talk, maybe you look for a key, maybe you poke things. But each room promises a little challenge and a reward.What I don't enjoy about certain dungeons:* Dungeons without personal stakes. I want there to be a reason for my character to be in the dungeon, even if it's just the fact that I want to find gold to buy something I want. A great dungeon can be fun on its own, but a mediocre dungeon can be made great through personal stakes.* Dungeons with ticking clocks. I know this is sometimes used to convince players not to rest too frequently, but nothing kills the joy of dungeon crawling for me more than having to constantly debate whether to spend time searching a room or moving on because there's a ticking clock. I had a DM run the Forge of Fury, but also have assassins coming after us. We wound up not exploring half the dungeons because these assassins would be arriving any day now. Not fun!* Goblin villages. When I'm in a dungeon, I want to be killing bad guys or guardians who are corrupted, outright evil, or out to get me. I don't want to be invading the territory of a village of intelligent beings and then having to debate whether to spare the women and children or not. It just feels icky.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BookTenTiger, post: 8980417, member: 6685541"] I really enjoy both running dungeons as a DM and exploring dungeons as a player. I think my friend put it best when he said that a good dungeon feels like every room is a little puzzle. You enter, figure out what is going on, and choose how to solve it. Maybe you fight, maybe you talk, maybe you look for a key, maybe you poke things. But each room promises a little challenge and a reward. What I don't enjoy about certain dungeons: * Dungeons without personal stakes. I want there to be a reason for my character to be in the dungeon, even if it's just the fact that I want to find gold to buy something I want. A great dungeon can be fun on its own, but a mediocre dungeon can be made great through personal stakes. * Dungeons with ticking clocks. I know this is sometimes used to convince players not to rest too frequently, but nothing kills the joy of dungeon crawling for me more than having to constantly debate whether to spend time searching a room or moving on because there's a ticking clock. I had a DM run the Forge of Fury, but also have assassins coming after us. We wound up not exploring half the dungeons because these assassins would be arriving any day now. Not fun! * Goblin villages. When I'm in a dungeon, I want to be killing bad guys or guardians who are corrupted, outright evil, or out to get me. I don't want to be invading the territory of a village of intelligent beings and then having to debate whether to spare the women and children or not. It just feels icky. [/QUOTE]

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