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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 7544" data-attributes="member: 158">If you want a really hard fight, with a risk of a quarter of the party dying, then make him Juvenile; if you want a challenge, with low risk of one PC dying, then make him only Young. Just keep in mind that the Encounter Level, the EL, is governed both by party prep time, and by dragon preparations. What many people don't think about is that a party with enough clerics to manage its healing and defensive needs (about a 4:1 ratio) will be properly kitted out to deal with massive fire damage and flyby attacks. even a mere resist elements spell will keep a PC in this fight for one or 2 rounds more than he would be otherwise.Just an aside - a particularly nasty tactic is to find one element that the dragon is immune to, and immerse him in that element. A red dragon half immersed in a pool or lava, or flying in the central shaft of a volcano, will make it very hard for the PC's to deal with, without some sort of fire protection, and will add yet one more source of protection drains that will have to be taken care of. A black Dragon who grabs its victims and grapples them under water will not only gain cover from the other party members, but will also be at an advantage against water breathers - not to mention it is immune to its own breath weapon!</blockquote>