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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8225209" data-attributes="member: 7006">That's understandable, and I wouldn't disagree with you on that-- the audience absolutely did widen with the advent of d20.  My only question into the cosmos though would be whether learning about other types of RPGs via the d20 umbrella conditioned people to think merely in class-based, leveled gaming?  And did that not only cut off people from really experiencing the vastness of roleplaying games, but also perhaps disillusioned them by having some of these games not really work as d20 D&D clones?Obviously none of us can actually answer that, and your experiences with d20 systems seemed to work out really well for you, which is great.  I just can't help but wonder though how many people did in fact bounce off of playing games that weren't D&D, because many of the d20 games were just D&D in dress up and unsuccessful dress-up at that?Now for all I know I could be completely full of horsepucky here and barking up an entirely wrong tree... but with the proliferation of people once again wanting to use D&D mechanics in new games makes me think that perhaps we didn't learn enough from history and we're doomed to repeat it.</blockquote>