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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 535457" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>Re</strong></p><p></p><p>1. I don't usually play specialist wizards, but then I never played specialilst wizards in the old rules.</p><p></p><p>I do feel that for one extra spell, all the specializations should have been able to select any single school of their choice be barred from. </p><p></p><p>2. Prestige classes are often better, and certain prestige classes stand heads and tails above others. I can really find no reason not to play a prestige class, but I thought that was the intent of prestige classes.</p><p></p><p>3. Ogres are far more badass than any previous version. They can actually have class levels and get an immense strength bonus to both attack and damage.</p><p></p><p>Ogres are far scarier than in any previous edition, just not when an entire party is beating on one.</p><p></p><p>4. Monks: I just don't have enough experience with monks. From what I have experienced, they seem like a DM nightmare at higher levels. Huge Armor Class, high number of attacks for full damage with a high damage die, virtually immune to magic, and able to kill creatures with low fort saves at will.</p><p></p><p>I don't know about monks being weak. It seems to me that most folks who make this comment only have experience with low level monks.</p><p></p><p>5. Half-elves: Personally, I like half-elves. They get no ability penalties, though no bonuses. They get a +1 bonus to Search, Listen, and Spot, Immunity to Sleep, the use of elven magic items (More useful in the Forgotten Realms than Greyhawk), and I believe a bonus on will saves versus charm spells. And no multi-classing penalty.</p><p></p><p>All in all a fairly good trade off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 535457, member: 5834"] [b]Re[/b] 1. I don't usually play specialist wizards, but then I never played specialilst wizards in the old rules. I do feel that for one extra spell, all the specializations should have been able to select any single school of their choice be barred from. 2. Prestige classes are often better, and certain prestige classes stand heads and tails above others. I can really find no reason not to play a prestige class, but I thought that was the intent of prestige classes. 3. Ogres are far more badass than any previous version. They can actually have class levels and get an immense strength bonus to both attack and damage. Ogres are far scarier than in any previous edition, just not when an entire party is beating on one. 4. Monks: I just don't have enough experience with monks. From what I have experienced, they seem like a DM nightmare at higher levels. Huge Armor Class, high number of attacks for full damage with a high damage die, virtually immune to magic, and able to kill creatures with low fort saves at will. I don't know about monks being weak. It seems to me that most folks who make this comment only have experience with low level monks. 5. Half-elves: Personally, I like half-elves. They get no ability penalties, though no bonuses. They get a +1 bonus to Search, Listen, and Spot, Immunity to Sleep, the use of elven magic items (More useful in the Forgotten Realms than Greyhawk), and I believe a bonus on will saves versus charm spells. And no multi-classing penalty. All in all a fairly good trade off. [/QUOTE]
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