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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 536285" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>Actually, the combat classes (Barbarian, Fighter, Ranger, Paladin) are also penalized with respect to small characters. You are forgetting two things:</p><p></p><p>1. Small characters typically use weapons that are one size smaller (and correspondingly one damage die smaller)</p><p>2. They also have lesser carrying capacities (x3/4 as opposed to x1).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Small fighters are one damage die behind their cousins for their ENTIRE EXISTANCES. The disparity you note is not in terms of levels, but in terms of die sizes. They stay, and remain, one die size lower, the same as fighter-types. Correspondingly, they are proportionately slower on their speeds, so no disparity there.</p><p></p><p>However, I want to point out that they DO get bonuses to compensate. take halfings by example - +1 to thrown weapons, +1 to ALL saves, +1 to Armor class, and +1 to hit. Those are QUITE compensatory advantages! So they already <em>get</em> the bonuses you desire - because they are small!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 536285, member: 158"] Actually, the combat classes (Barbarian, Fighter, Ranger, Paladin) are also penalized with respect to small characters. You are forgetting two things: 1. Small characters typically use weapons that are one size smaller (and correspondingly one damage die smaller) 2. They also have lesser carrying capacities (x3/4 as opposed to x1). Small fighters are one damage die behind their cousins for their ENTIRE EXISTANCES. The disparity you note is not in terms of levels, but in terms of die sizes. They stay, and remain, one die size lower, the same as fighter-types. Correspondingly, they are proportionately slower on their speeds, so no disparity there. However, I want to point out that they DO get bonuses to compensate. take halfings by example - +1 to thrown weapons, +1 to ALL saves, +1 to Armor class, and +1 to hit. Those are QUITE compensatory advantages! So they already [I]get[/I] the bonuses you desire - because they are small! [/QUOTE]
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