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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4006269" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Howdy! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well its good to have you back. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>True, but as with the Fiendish Codex its understandable why they did what they did.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm planning on giving a few guidelines for converting Elder Evils on the website when I get a chance (the basic premise being to double the CR of the 'Evil'), although whether that will give results that meet your requirements is unknown.</p><p></p><p>While I'm here I suppose though...</p><p></p><p><strong>Atropus:</strong> Elder One with 133 HD. But needs the full suite of divine abilities added. </p><p></p><p>Atropus (Moon) < Ego (Planet) < Algol (Star)...interesting.</p><p></p><p><strong>Father Llymic:</strong> Could be anything from a Quasi-deity to a Lesser Deity.</p><p></p><p><strong>Hulks of Zoretha:</strong> Would make sense for each of the Hulks to be equal to one of your PCs. Otherwise setting each in the CR 32 range should suffice.</p><p></p><p><strong>Leviathan:</strong> 133 HD (Macro-Fine, as per EE rules) or 266 HD (Macro-Diminutive as per doubled EE rules). I sort of like the 133 HD version here as it puts the Leviathan in the same bracket as Godzilla (although that said, a same size quadruped wouldn't look that threatening to a biped, so maybe it needs to be bigger to give it Godzilla-foe status). Though I would perhaps bring the in EE Leviathan 'Aspect' up to 66 HD (Avatar rather than Aspect) and we could say its the offspring of the true Leviathan.</p><p></p><p><strong>Pandorym:</strong> Definately a 200 HD Old One, with the 50 HD Mind Shard acting as an Aspect.</p><p></p><p><strong>Ragnorra:</strong> Given her write-up. I place her at a very weak Sidereal, say 120 HD, although she needs a full divine suite of powers because she is relatively very weak (in terms of CR) compared to her HD.</p><p></p><p><strong>Sertrous:</strong> Given his history, it would appear that weak demigod (CR 44) should be sufficient (therefore about 35 or 36 HD in my estimation) to give him Demon Prince status (under IH rules).</p><p></p><p><strong>Kyuss:</strong> As with Sertrous, weak demigod (30 HD) fits well here.</p><p></p><p><strong>Zargon:</strong> Ruled the 9 Hells and was the father of the Ancient Baatorians (In the IH the Maskim are the plural kings of the Ancient Baatorians so Zargon to be above them, Emperor as such, would require him to be in the Intermediate God type power bracket, which suggests 72 HD). Of all the Elder Evils I like the idea of pushing his anti-deity suite of powers the most.</p><p></p><p>Overview:</p><p></p><p><strong>Atropus:</strong> 133 HD Elder One, with 66 HD Intermediate Deity Avatar and lots of 33 HD Demigod Aspects running around.</p><p><strong>Father Llymic:</strong> 48 HD Lesser Deity.</p><p><strong>Hulks of Zoretha:</strong> 32 HD Demi-deities(?).</p><p><strong>Leviathan: </strong> 133 HD (Macro-Fine) Monster (not divine), Children of Leviathan 66 HD (Titanic) Monsters. </p><p><strong>Pandorym:</strong> 200 HD Old One, with 50 HD Aspect(s) (the Mind Shard).</p><p><strong>Ragnorra:</strong> 120 HD Elder One</p><p><strong>Sertrous:</strong> 36 HD Demi-deity (Obyrith Demon Prince)</p><p><strong>Kyuss:</strong> 30 HD Demi-deity</p><p><strong>Zargon</strong> 72 HD Intermediate Deity</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Umbrals are the partial natives of the dimension of Entropy (since nothing truly exists in Entropy), only where its borders touch other dimensions do such beings manifest. Often caused by the true deaths of immortals, whereas Nightshades are probably mortal derived. So similar, but different. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suppose.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly makes sense for a PC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its pretty cool though that you have them running scared...as it should be. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 4006269, member: 326"] Howdy! :) Well its good to have you back. :) ;) True, but as with the Fiendish Codex its understandable why they did what they did. I'm planning on giving a few guidelines for converting Elder Evils on the website when I get a chance (the basic premise being to double the CR of the 'Evil'), although whether that will give results that meet your requirements is unknown. While I'm here I suppose though... [B]Atropus:[/B] Elder One with 133 HD. But needs the full suite of divine abilities added. Atropus (Moon) < Ego (Planet) < Algol (Star)...interesting. [B]Father Llymic:[/B] Could be anything from a Quasi-deity to a Lesser Deity. [B]Hulks of Zoretha:[/B] Would make sense for each of the Hulks to be equal to one of your PCs. Otherwise setting each in the CR 32 range should suffice. [B]Leviathan:[/B] 133 HD (Macro-Fine, as per EE rules) or 266 HD (Macro-Diminutive as per doubled EE rules). I sort of like the 133 HD version here as it puts the Leviathan in the same bracket as Godzilla (although that said, a same size quadruped wouldn't look that threatening to a biped, so maybe it needs to be bigger to give it Godzilla-foe status). Though I would perhaps bring the in EE Leviathan 'Aspect' up to 66 HD (Avatar rather than Aspect) and we could say its the offspring of the true Leviathan. [B]Pandorym:[/B] Definately a 200 HD Old One, with the 50 HD Mind Shard acting as an Aspect. [B]Ragnorra:[/B] Given her write-up. I place her at a very weak Sidereal, say 120 HD, although she needs a full divine suite of powers because she is relatively very weak (in terms of CR) compared to her HD. [B]Sertrous:[/B] Given his history, it would appear that weak demigod (CR 44) should be sufficient (therefore about 35 or 36 HD in my estimation) to give him Demon Prince status (under IH rules). [B]Kyuss:[/B] As with Sertrous, weak demigod (30 HD) fits well here. [B]Zargon:[/B] Ruled the 9 Hells and was the father of the Ancient Baatorians (In the IH the Maskim are the plural kings of the Ancient Baatorians so Zargon to be above them, Emperor as such, would require him to be in the Intermediate God type power bracket, which suggests 72 HD). Of all the Elder Evils I like the idea of pushing his anti-deity suite of powers the most. Overview: [B]Atropus:[/B] 133 HD Elder One, with 66 HD Intermediate Deity Avatar and lots of 33 HD Demigod Aspects running around. [B]Father Llymic:[/B] 48 HD Lesser Deity. [B]Hulks of Zoretha:[/B] 32 HD Demi-deities(?). [B]Leviathan: [/B] 133 HD (Macro-Fine) Monster (not divine), Children of Leviathan 66 HD (Titanic) Monsters. [B]Pandorym:[/B] 200 HD Old One, with 50 HD Aspect(s) (the Mind Shard). [B]Ragnorra:[/B] 120 HD Elder One [B]Sertrous:[/B] 36 HD Demi-deity (Obyrith Demon Prince) [B]Kyuss:[/B] 30 HD Demi-deity [B]Zargon[/B] 72 HD Intermediate Deity :D The Umbrals are the partial natives of the dimension of Entropy (since nothing truly exists in Entropy), only where its borders touch other dimensions do such beings manifest. Often caused by the true deaths of immortals, whereas Nightshades are probably mortal derived. So similar, but different. I suppose. Certainly makes sense for a PC. Its pretty cool though that you have them running scared...as it should be. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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