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What ever happened to just "playing" the game and telling a great story?
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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 3928908" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>Why is that necessary to a story? AFAIAC, it's not. I love plucking creatures, classes, items, and spells out of the rules, extrapolating a little bit, and making a story around it. Things I have made great games out of include:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Kaiju template in dragon.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pride Daemons in creature collection 3.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Conundrum Creature from Creature Collection 2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tempus Twins from Creature Collection 2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ratmen from creature collection revised</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Divert Teleport power in XPH</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Jewel Mage prestige class in Spells & Magic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Mirror Mage prc in Book of Eldritch Might</li> </ul><p></p><p>I think the problem isn't the rules so much as the culture. For some reason, it seems to me that a major part of the D&D audience sees a dichotomy between rules and story. The rules tell how the world works. The rules <em>tell</em> the story. All the DM needs to do is look to see how various rules elements can play together to make an interesting situation. And the great thing is, once you've done that, just set the whole thing loose an the rules dictate how the story evolves in response to the players' efforts.</p><p></p><p>I think part of this culture reared it's ugly head when WotC started producing PrCs and creatures with a lot of background material. I thought that was great. It gave you story elements with a strong link to how it played out in the game, which naturally supports the best sort of RPG experience AFAIAC. But those who don't see the connection between mechanics blasted the move.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 3928908, member: 172"] Why is that necessary to a story? AFAIAC, it's not. I love plucking creatures, classes, items, and spells out of the rules, extrapolating a little bit, and making a story around it. Things I have made great games out of include: [list] [*]The Kaiju template in dragon. [*]Pride Daemons in creature collection 3. [*]Conundrum Creature from Creature Collection 2 [*]Tempus Twins from Creature Collection 2 [*]Ratmen from creature collection revised [*]The Divert Teleport power in XPH [*]The Jewel Mage prestige class in Spells & Magic [*]The Mirror Mage prc in Book of Eldritch Might [/list] I think the problem isn't the rules so much as the culture. For some reason, it seems to me that a major part of the D&D audience sees a dichotomy between rules and story. The rules tell how the world works. The rules [i]tell[/i] the story. All the DM needs to do is look to see how various rules elements can play together to make an interesting situation. And the great thing is, once you've done that, just set the whole thing loose an the rules dictate how the story evolves in response to the players' efforts. I think part of this culture reared it's ugly head when WotC started producing PrCs and creatures with a lot of background material. I thought that was great. It gave you story elements with a strong link to how it played out in the game, which naturally supports the best sort of RPG experience AFAIAC. But those who don't see the connection between mechanics blasted the move. [/QUOTE]
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